diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/admin/controllers/admin_flags_controller.js b/app/assets/javascripts/admin/controllers/admin_flags_controller.js
index f1843e93d2a..36cb05c3c89 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/admin/controllers/admin_flags_controller.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/admin/controllers/admin_flags_controller.js
@@ -40,6 +40,7 @@ Discourse.AdminFlagsController = Ember.ArrayController.extend({
       bootbox.alert(Em.String.i18n("admin.flags.error"));
     });
   },
+
   /**
     Deletes a post
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse.js
index c2e8be02abc..fa09ab10204 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse.js
@@ -331,10 +331,6 @@ Discourse = Ember.Application.createWithMixins({
     Discourse.MessageBus.start();
     Discourse.KeyValueStore.init("discourse_", Discourse.MessageBus);
 
-    // Don't remove site settings for now. It seems on some browsers the route
-    // tries to use it after it has been removed
-    // PreloadStore.remove('siteSettings');
-
     // Developer specific functions
     Discourse.Development.setupProbes();
     Discourse.Development.observeLiveChanges();
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/components/url.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/components/url.js
index 08869b6770b..0ab91a3264f 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/components/url.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/components/url.js
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
   @namespace Discourse
   @module Discourse
 **/
-Discourse.URL = {
+Discourse.URL = Em.Object.createWithMixins({
 
   // Used for matching a topic
   TOPIC_REGEXP: /\/t\/([^\/]+)\/(\d+)\/?(\d+)?/,
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ Discourse.URL = {
   **/
   router: function() {
     return Discourse.__container__.lookup('router:main');
-  },
+  }.property(),
 
   /**
     Browser aware replaceState. Will only be invoked if the browser supports it.
@@ -43,7 +43,8 @@ Discourse.URL = {
         // while URLs are loading. For example, while a topic loads it sets `currentPost`
         // which triggers a replaceState even though the topic hasn't fully loaded yet!
         Em.run.next(function() {
-          Discourse.URL.router().get('location').replaceURL(path);
+          var location = Discourse.URL.get('router.location');
+          if (location.replaceURL) { location.replaceURL(path); }
         });
     }
   },
@@ -85,10 +86,16 @@ Discourse.URL = {
       if (oldTopicId === newTopicId) {
         Discourse.URL.replaceState(path);
         var topicController = Discourse.__container__.lookup('controller:topic');
-        var opts = { trackVisit: false };
+        var opts = { };
         if (newMatches[3]) opts.nearPost = newMatches[3];
-        topicController.cancelFilter();
-        topicController.loadPosts(opts);
+
+        var postStream = topicController.get('postStream');
+        postStream.refresh(opts).then(function() {
+          topicController.setProperties({
+            currentPost: opts.nearPost || 1,
+            progressPosition: opts.nearPost || 1
+          });
+        });
 
         // Abort routing, we have replaced our state.
         return;
@@ -102,11 +109,18 @@ Discourse.URL = {
 
     // Be wary of looking up the router. In this case, we have links in our
     // HTML, say form compiled markdown posts, that need to be routed.
-    var router = this.router();
+    var router = this.get('router');
     router.router.updateURL(path);
     return router.handleURL(path);
   },
 
+  /**
+    Replaces the query parameters in the URL. Use no parameters to clear them.
+
+    @method replaceQueryParams
+  **/
+  queryParams: Em.computed.alias('router.location.queryParams'),
+
   /**
     @private
 
@@ -131,4 +145,4 @@ Discourse.URL = {
     window.location = Discourse.getURL(url);
   }
 
-};
+});
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/edit_topic_auto_close_controller.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/edit_topic_auto_close_controller.js
index 425a75d62be..87031a5562c 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/edit_topic_auto_close_controller.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/edit_topic_auto_close_controller.js
@@ -10,15 +10,15 @@
 Discourse.EditTopicAutoCloseController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.ModalFunctionality, {
 
   setDays: function() {
-    if( this.get('auto_close_at') ) {
-      var closeTime = new Date( this.get('auto_close_at') );
+    if( this.get('details.auto_close_at') ) {
+      var closeTime = new Date( this.get('details.auto_close_at') );
       if (closeTime > new Date()) {
         this.set('auto_close_days', closeTime.daysSince());
       }
     } else {
-      this.set('auto_close_days', '');
+      this.set('details.auto_close_days', '');
     }
-  }.observes('auto_close_at'),
+  }.observes('details.auto_close_at'),
 
   saveAutoClose: function() {
     this.setAutoClose( parseFloat(this.get('auto_close_days')) );
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ Discourse.EditTopicAutoCloseController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Disco
       dataType: 'html', // no custom errors, jquery 1.9 enforces json
       data: { auto_close_days: days > 0 ? days : null }
     }).then(function(){
-      editTopicAutoCloseController.set('auto_close_at', moment().add('days', days).format());
+      editTopicAutoCloseController.set('details.auto_close_at', moment().add('days', days).format());
     }, function (error) {
       bootbox.alert(Em.String.i18n('generic_error'));
     });
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/invite_private_controller.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/invite_private_controller.js
index 2fbfac27420..a3320da57fe 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/invite_private_controller.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/invite_private_controller.js
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ Discourse.InvitePrivateController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.
       invitePrivateController.set('finished', true);
 
       if(result && result.user) {
-        invitePrivateController.get('content.allowed_users').pushObject(result.user);
+        invitePrivateController.get('content.details.allowed_users').pushObject(result.user);
       }
     }, function() {
       // Failure
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/quote_button_controller.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/quote_button_controller.js
index ebcace7f89d..bfd4e2e38b7 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/quote_button_controller.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/quote_button_controller.js
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ Discourse.QuoteButtonController = Discourse.Controller.extend({
     if (!Discourse.User.current()) return;
 
     // don't display the "quote-reply" button if we can't create a post
-    if (!this.get('controllers.topic.content.can_create_post')) return;
+    if (!this.get('controllers.topic.model.details.can_create_post')) return;
 
     var selection = window.getSelection();
     // no selections
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/topic_controller.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/topic_controller.js
index 5bcc284a874..8dd5c64acf2 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/topic_controller.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/controllers/topic_controller.js
@@ -7,24 +7,28 @@
   @module Discourse
 **/
 Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.SelectedPostsCount, {
-  userFilters: new Em.Set(),
   multiSelect: false,
-  bestOf: false,
   summaryCollapsed: true,
-  loading: false,
-  loadingBelow: false,
-  loadingAbove: false,
   needs: ['header', 'modal', 'composer', 'quoteButton'],
   allPostsSelected: false,
   selectedPosts: new Em.Set(),
+  editingTopic: false,
+
+  jumpTopDisabled: function() {
+    return this.get('currentPost') === 1;
+  }.property('currentPost'),
+
+  jumpBottomDisabled: function() {
+    return this.get('currentPost') === this.get('highest_post_number');
+  }.property('currentPost'),
 
   canMergeTopic: function() {
-    if (!this.get('can_move_posts')) return false;
+    if (!this.get('details.can_move_posts')) return false;
     return (this.get('selectedPostsCount') > 0);
   }.property('selectedPostsCount'),
 
   canSplitTopic: function() {
-    if (!this.get('can_move_posts')) return false;
+    if (!this.get('details.can_move_posts')) return false;
     if (this.get('allPostsSelected')) return false;
     return (this.get('selectedPostsCount') > 0);
   }.property('selectedPostsCount'),
@@ -64,11 +68,11 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
   }.observes('multiSelect'),
 
   hideProgress: function() {
-    if (!this.get('content.loaded')) return true;
+    if (!this.get('postStream.loaded')) return true;
     if (!this.get('currentPost')) return true;
-    if (this.get('content.filtered_posts_count') < 2) return true;
+    if (this.get('postStream.filteredPostsCount') < 2) return true;
     return false;
-  }.property('content.loaded', 'currentPost', 'content.filtered_posts_count'),
+  }.property('postStream.loaded', 'currentPost', 'postStream.filteredPostsCount'),
 
   selectPost: function(post) {
     var selectedPosts = this.get('selectedPosts');
@@ -107,6 +111,58 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
     this.toggleProperty('summaryCollapsed');
   },
 
+  editTopic: function() {
+    if (!this.get('details.can_edit')) return false;
+
+    this.setProperties({
+      editingTopic: true,
+      newTitle: this.get('title'),
+      newCategoryId: this.get('category_id')
+    });
+    return false;
+  },
+
+  // close editing mode
+  cancelEditingTopic: function() {
+    this.set('editingTopic', false);
+  },
+
+  finishedEditingTopic: function() {
+    var topicController = this;
+    if (this.get('editingTopic')) {
+
+      var topic = this.get('model');
+
+      // manually update the titles & category
+      topic.setProperties({
+        title: this.get('newTitle'),
+        category_id: parseInt(this.get('newCategoryId'), 10),
+        fancy_title: this.get('newTitle')
+      });
+
+      // save the modifications
+      topic.save().then(function(result){
+        // update the title if it has been changed (cleaned up) server-side
+        var title = result.basic_topic.fancy_title;
+        topic.setProperties({
+          title: title,
+          fancy_title: title
+        });
+
+      }, function(error) {
+        topicController.set('editingTopic', true);
+        if (error && error.responseText) {
+          bootbox.alert($.parseJSON(error.responseText).errors[0]);
+        } else {
+          bootbox.alert(Em.String.i18n('generic_error'));
+        }
+      });
+
+      // close editing mode
+      topicController.set('editingTopic', false);
+    }
+  },
+
   deleteSelected: function() {
     var topicController = this;
     bootbox.confirm(Em.String.i18n("post.delete.confirm", { count: this.get('selectedPostsCount')}), function(result) {
@@ -126,25 +182,14 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
   },
 
   jumpTop: function() {
-    if (this.get('bestOf')) {
-      Discourse.TopicView.scrollTo(this.get('id'), this.get('posts')[0].get('post_number'));
-    } else {
-      Discourse.URL.routeTo(this.get('url'));
-    }
+    Discourse.URL.routeTo(this.get('url'));
   },
 
   jumpBottom: function() {
-    if (this.get('bestOf')) {
-      Discourse.TopicView.scrollTo(this.get('id'), _.last(this.get('posts')).get('post_number'));
-    } else {
-      Discourse.URL.routeTo(this.get('lastPostUrl'));
-    }
+    Discourse.URL.routeTo(this.get('lastPostUrl'));
   },
 
-  cancelFilter: function() {
-    this.set('bestOf', false);
-    this.get('userFilters').clear();
-  },
+
 
   replyAsNewTopic: function(post) {
     // TODO shut down topic draft cleanly if it exists ...
@@ -182,95 +227,18 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
     }
   },
 
-  toggleParticipant: function(user) {
-    this.set('bestOf', false);
-    var username = Em.get(user, 'username');
-    var userFilters = this.get('userFilters');
-    if (userFilters.contains(username)) {
-      userFilters.remove(username);
-    } else {
-      userFilters.add(username);
-    }
-  },
-
   /**
-    Show or hide the bottom bar, depending on our filter options.
+    Toggle a participant for filtering
 
-    @method updateBottomBar
+    @method toggleParticipant
   **/
-  updateBottomBar: function() {
-
-    var postFilters = this.get('postFilters');
-
-    if (postFilters.bestOf) {
-      this.set('filterDesc', Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.best_of", {
-        n_best_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.n_best_posts", { count: this.get('filtered_posts_count') }),
-        of_n_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.of_n_posts", { count: this.get('posts_count') })
-      }));
-    } else if (postFilters.userFilters.length > 0) {
-      this.set('filterDesc', Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.user", {
-        n_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.n_posts", { count: this.get('filtered_posts_count') }),
-        by_n_users: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.by_n_users", { count: postFilters.userFilters.length })
-      }));
-    } else {
-      // Hide the bottom bar
-      $('#topic-filter').slideUp();
-      return;
-    }
-
-    $('#topic-filter').slideDown();
+  toggleParticipant: function(user) {
+    this.get('postStream').toggleParticipant(Em.get(user, 'username'));
   },
 
-  enableBestOf: function(e) {
-    this.set('bestOf', true);
-    this.get('userFilters').clear();
-  },
-
-  postFilters: function() {
-    if (this.get('bestOf') === true) return { bestOf: true };
-    return { userFilters: this.get('userFilters') };
-  }.property('userFilters.[]', 'bestOf'),
-
-  loadPosts: function(opts) {
-    var topicController = this;
-    this.get('content').loadPosts(opts).then(function () {
-      Em.run.scheduleOnce('afterRender', topicController, 'updateBottomBar');
-    });
-  },
-
-  reloadPosts: function() {
-    var topic = this.get('content');
-    if (!topic) return;
-
-    var posts = topic.get('posts');
-    if (!posts) return;
-
-    // Leave the first post -- we keep it above the filter controls
-    posts.removeAt(1, posts.length - 1);
-
-    this.set('loadingBelow', true);
-
-    var topicController = this;
-    var postFilters = this.get('postFilters');
-    return Discourse.Topic.find(this.get('id'), postFilters).then(function(result) {
-      var first = result.posts[0];
-      if (first) {
-        topicController.set('currentPost', first.post_number);
-      }
-      $('#topic-progress .solid').data('progress', false);
-      _.each(result.posts,function(p) {
-        // Skip the first post
-        if (p.post_number === 1) return;
-        posts.pushObject(Discourse.Post.create(p, topic));
-      });
-
-      Em.run.scheduleOnce('afterRender', topicController, 'updateBottomBar');
-
-      topicController.set('filtered_posts_count', result.filtered_posts_count);
-      topicController.set('loadingBelow', false);
-      topicController.set('seenBottom', false);
-    });
-  }.observes('postFilters'),
+  showFavoriteButton: function() {
+    return Discourse.User.current() && !this.get('isPrivateMessage');
+  }.property('isPrivateMessage'),
 
   deleteTopic: function() {
     var topicController = this;
@@ -327,23 +295,13 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
     bus.subscribe("/topic/" + (this.get('id')), function(data) {
       var topic = topicController.get('model');
       if (data.notification_level_change) {
-        topic.set('notification_level', data.notification_level_change);
-        topic.set('notifications_reason_id', data.notifications_reason_id);
-        return;
-      }
-      var posts = topic.get('posts');
-      if (posts.some(function(p) {
-        return p.get('post_number') === data.post_number;
-      })) {
+        topic.set('details.notification_level', data.notification_level_change);
+        topic.set('details.notifications_reason_id', data.notifications_reason_id);
         return;
       }
 
-      // Robin, TODO when a message comes in we need to figure out if it even goes
-      //  in this view ... for now fixed the general case
-      topic.set('filtered_posts_count', topic.get('filtered_posts_count') + 1);
-      topic.set('highest_post_number', data.post_number);
-      topic.set('last_poster', data.user);
-      topic.set('last_posted_at', data.created_at);
+      // Add the new post into the stream
+      topicController.get('postStream').triggerNewPostInStream(data.id);
     });
   },
 
@@ -424,15 +382,8 @@ Discourse.TopicController = Discourse.ObjectController.extend(Discourse.Selected
     post.destroy();
   },
 
-  postRendered: function(post) {
-    var onPostRendered = this.get('onPostRendered');
-    if (onPostRendered) {
-      onPostRendered(post);
-    }
-  },
-
   removeAllowedUser: function(username) {
-    this.get('model').removeAllowedUser(username);
+    this.get('details').removeAllowedUser(username);
   }
 });
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/composer.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/composer.js
index 8f6d2d3ca5d..b3dc1732644 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/composer.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/composer.js
@@ -357,70 +357,40 @@ Discourse.Composer = Discourse.Model.extend({
     var post = this.get('post'),
         topic = this.get('topic'),
         currentUser = Discourse.User.current(),
+        postStream = this.get('topic.postStream'),
         addedToStream = false;
 
-    // The post number we'll probably get from the server
-    var probablePostNumber = this.get('topic.highest_post_number') + 1;
-
     // Build the post object
     var createdPost = Discourse.Post.create({
-        raw: this.get('reply'),
-        title: this.get('title'),
-        category: this.get('categoryName'),
-        topic_id: this.get('topic.id'),
-        reply_to_post_number: post ? post.get('post_number') : null,
-        imageSizes: opts.imageSizes,
-        post_number: probablePostNumber,
-        index: probablePostNumber,
-        cooked: $('#wmd-preview').html(),
-        reply_count: 0,
-        display_username: currentUser.get('name'),
-        username: currentUser.get('username'),
-        user_id: currentUser.get('id'),
-        metaData: this.get('metaData'),
-        archetype: this.get('archetypeId'),
-        post_type: Discourse.Site.instance().get('post_types.regular'),
-        target_usernames: this.get('targetUsernames'),
-        actions_summary: Em.A(),
-        moderator: currentUser.get('moderator'),
-        yours: true,
-        newPost: true,
-        auto_close_days: this.get('auto_close_days')
-      });
+      raw: this.get('reply'),
+      title: this.get('title'),
+      category: this.get('categoryName'),
+      topic_id: this.get('topic.id'),
+      reply_to_post_number: post ? post.get('post_number') : null,
+      imageSizes: opts.imageSizes,
+      cooked: $('#wmd-preview').html(),
+      reply_count: 0,
+      display_username: currentUser.get('name'),
+      username: currentUser.get('username'),
+      user_id: currentUser.get('id'),
+      metaData: this.get('metaData'),
+      archetype: this.get('archetypeId'),
+      post_type: Discourse.Site.instance().get('post_types.regular'),
+      target_usernames: this.get('targetUsernames'),
+      actions_summary: Em.A(),
+      moderator: currentUser.get('moderator'),
+      yours: true,
+      newPost: true,
+      auto_close_days: this.get('auto_close_days')
+    });
 
     // If we're in a topic, we can append the post instantly.
-    if (topic) {
-
-      // Increase the reply count
+    if (postStream) {
+      // If it's in reply to another post, increase the reply count
       if (post) {
         post.set('reply_count', (post.get('reply_count') || 0) + 1);
       }
-      topic.set('posts_count', topic.get('posts_count') + 1);
-
-      // Update last post
-      topic.set('last_posted_at', new Date());
-      topic.set('highest_post_number', createdPost.get('post_number'));
-      topic.set('last_poster', Discourse.User.current());
-      topic.set('filtered_posts_count', topic.get('filtered_posts_count') + 1);
-
-      // Set the topic view for the new post
-      createdPost.set('topic', topic);
-      createdPost.set('created_at', new Date());
-
-      // If we're near the end of the topic, load new posts
-      var lastPost = topic.posts[topic.posts.length-1];
-      if (lastPost) {
-        var diff = topic.get('highest_post_number') - lastPost.get('post_number');
-
-        // If the new post is within a threshold of the end of the topic,
-        // add it and scroll there instead of adding the link.
-
-        if (diff < 5) {
-          createdPost.set('scrollToAfterInsert', createdPost.get('post_number'));
-          topic.pushPosts([createdPost]);
-          addedToStream = true;
-        }
-      }
+      postStream.stagePost(createdPost, currentUser);
     }
 
     // Save callback
@@ -430,11 +400,13 @@ Discourse.Composer = Discourse.Model.extend({
         var addedPost = false,
             saving = true;
 
-        createdPost.updateFromSave(result);
+        createdPost.updateFromJson(result);
         if (topic) {
           // It's no longer a new post
           createdPost.set('newPost', false);
           topic.set('draft_sequence', result.draft_sequence);
+          postStream.commitPost(createdPost);
+          addedToStream = true;
         } else {
           // We created a new topic, let's show it.
           composer.set('composeState', CLOSED);
@@ -448,12 +420,13 @@ Discourse.Composer = Discourse.Model.extend({
         } else if (saving) {
           composer.set('composeState', SAVING);
         }
+
+
         return promise.resolve({ post: result });
       }, function(error) {
         // If an error occurs
-        if (topic) {
-          topic.posts.removeObject(createdPost);
-          topic.set('filtered_posts_count', topic.get('filtered_posts_count') - 1);
+        if (postStream) {
+          postStream.undoPost(createdPost);
         }
         promise.reject($.parseJSON(error.responseText).errors[0]);
         composer.set('composeState', OPEN);
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post.js
index c395efa1ca0..4a2c734759d 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post.js
@@ -15,9 +15,8 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
     return this.get('url') + (user ? '?u=' + user.get('username_lower') : '');
   }.property('url'),
 
-  new_user: function() {
-    return this.get('trust_level') === 0;
-  }.property('trust_level'),
+  new_user: Em.computed.equal('trust_level', 0),
+  firstPost: Em.computed.equal('post_number', 1),
 
   url: function() {
     return Discourse.Utilities.postUrl(this.get('topic.slug') || this.get('topic_slug'), this.get('topic_id'), this.get('post_number'));
@@ -35,14 +34,9 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
     return this.get('reply_to_user') && (this.get('reply_to_post_number') < (this.get('post_number') - 1));
   }.property('reply_to_user', 'reply_to_post_number', 'post_number'),
 
-  firstPost: function() {
-    if (this.get('bestOfFirst') === true) return true;
-    return this.get('post_number') === 1;
-  }.property('post_number'),
-
   byTopicCreator: function() {
-    return this.get('topic.created_by.id') === this.get('user_id');
-  }.property('topic.created_by.id', 'user_id'),
+    return this.get('topic.details.created_by.id') === this.get('user_id');
+  }.property('topic.details.created_by.id', 'user_id'),
 
   hasHistory: function() {
     return this.get('version') > 1;
@@ -55,28 +49,23 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
   // The class for the read icon of the post. It starts with read-icon then adds 'seen' or
   // 'last-read' if the post has been seen or is the highest post number seen so far respectively.
   bookmarkClass: function() {
-    var result, topic;
-    result = 'read-icon';
+    var result = 'read-icon';
     if (this.get('bookmarked')) return result + ' bookmarked';
-    topic = this.get('topic');
+
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
     if (topic && topic.get('last_read_post_number') === this.get('post_number')) {
-      result += ' last-read';
-    } else {
-      if (this.get('read')) {
-        result += ' seen';
-      } else {
-        result += ' unseen';
-      }
+      return result + ' last-read';
     }
-    return result;
+
+    return result + (this.get('read') ? ' seen' : ' unseen');
   }.property('read', 'topic.last_read_post_number', 'bookmarked'),
 
   // Custom tooltips for the bookmark icons
   bookmarkTooltip: function() {
-    var topic;
     if (this.get('bookmarked')) return Em.String.i18n('bookmarks.created');
     if (!this.get('read')) return "";
-    topic = this.get('topic');
+
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
     if (topic && topic.get('last_read_post_number') === this.get('post_number')) {
       return Em.String.i18n('bookmarks.last_read');
     }
@@ -123,9 +112,9 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
   }.property('updated_at'),
 
   flagsAvailable: function() {
-    var _this = this;
-    var flags = Discourse.Site.instance().get('flagTypes').filter(function(item) {
-      return _this.get("actionByName." + (item.get('name_key')) + ".can_act");
+    var post = this,
+        flags = Discourse.Site.instance().get('flagTypes').filter(function(item) {
+      return post.get("actionByName." + (item.get('name_key')) + ".can_act");
     });
     return flags;
   }.property('actions_summary.@each.can_act'),
@@ -142,7 +131,6 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
 
   // Save a post and call the callback when done.
   save: function(complete, error) {
-    var data, metaData;
     if (!this.get('newPost')) {
       // We're updating a post
       return Discourse.ajax("/posts/" + (this.get('id')), {
@@ -163,7 +151,7 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
     } else {
 
       // We're saving a post
-      data = {
+      var data = {
         raw: this.get('raw'),
         topic_id: this.get('topic_id'),
         reply_to_post_number: this.get('reply_to_post_number'),
@@ -175,11 +163,13 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
         auto_close_days: this.get('auto_close_days')
       };
 
+      var metaData = this.get('metaData');
       // Put the metaData into the request
-      if (metaData = this.get('metaData')) {
+      if (metaData) {
         data.meta_data = {};
         Ember.keys(metaData).forEach(function(key) { data.meta_data[key] = metaData.get(key); });
       }
+
       return Discourse.ajax("/posts", {
         type: 'POST',
         data: data
@@ -201,14 +191,35 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
     return Discourse.ajax("/posts/" + (this.get('id')), { type: 'DELETE' });
   },
 
-  // Update the properties of this post from an obj, ignoring cooked as we should already
-  // have that rendered.
-  updateFromSave: function(obj) {
+  /**
+    Updates a post from another's attributes. This will normally happen when a post is loading but
+    is already found in an identity map.
 
+    @method updateFromPost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} otherPost The post we're updating from
+  **/
+  updateFromPost: function(otherPost) {
     var post = this;
+    Object.keys(otherPost).forEach(function (key) {
+      var value = otherPost[key];
+      if (typeof value !== "function") {
+        post.set(key, value);
+      }
+    });
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Updates a post from a JSON packet. This is normally done after the post is saved to refresh any
+    attributes.
+
+    @method updateFromJson
+    @param {Object} obj The Json data to update with
+  **/
+  updateFromJson: function(obj) {
+    if (!obj) return;
 
     // Update all the properties
-    if (!obj) return;
+    var post = this;
     _.each(obj, function(val,key) {
       if (key !== 'actions_summary'){
         if (val) {
@@ -255,7 +266,7 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
   },
 
   // Whether to show replies directly below
-  showRepliesBelow: (function() {
+  showRepliesBelow: function() {
     var reply_count, _ref;
     reply_count = this.get('reply_count');
 
@@ -272,15 +283,15 @@ Discourse.Post = Discourse.Model.extend({
     if ((_ref = this.get('topic')) ? _ref.isReplyDirectlyBelow(this) : void 0) return false;
 
     return true;
-  }).property('reply_count')
+  }.property('reply_count')
+
 });
 
 Discourse.Post.reopenClass({
 
   createActionSummary: function(result) {
-    var lookup;
     if (result.actions_summary) {
-      lookup = Em.Object.create();
+      var lookup = Em.Object.create();
       result.actions_summary = result.actions_summary.map(function(a) {
         a.post = result;
         a.actionType = Discourse.Site.instance().postActionTypeById(a.id);
@@ -288,17 +299,16 @@ Discourse.Post.reopenClass({
         lookup.set(a.actionType.get('name_key'), actionSummary);
         return actionSummary;
       });
-      return result.set('actionByName', lookup);
+      result.set('actionByName', lookup);
     }
   },
 
-  create: function(obj, topic) {
+  create: function(obj) {
     var result = this._super(obj);
     this.createActionSummary(result);
     if (obj && obj.reply_to_user) {
       result.set('reply_to_user', Discourse.User.create(obj.reply_to_user));
     }
-    result.set('topic', topic);
     return result;
   },
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post_stream.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post_stream.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..bb2c9f4bd81
--- /dev/null
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/post_stream.js
@@ -0,0 +1,633 @@
+/**
+  We use this class to keep on top of streaming and filtering posts within a topic.
+
+  @class PostStream
+  @extends Ember.Object
+  @namespace Discourse
+  @module Discourse
+**/
+Discourse.PostStream = Em.Object.extend({
+
+  /**
+    Are we currently loading posts in any way?
+
+    @property loading
+  **/
+  loading: Em.computed.or('loadingAbove', 'loadingBelow', 'loadingFilter', 'stagingPost'),
+
+  notLoading: Em.computed.not('loading'),
+
+  filteredPostsCount: Em.computed.alias('stream.length'),
+
+  /**
+    Have we loaded any posts?
+
+    @property hasPosts
+  **/
+  hasPosts: function() {
+    return this.get('posts.length') > 0;
+  }.property('posts.length'),
+
+  /**
+    Do we have a stream list of post ids?
+
+    @property hasStream
+  **/
+  hasStream: function() {
+    return this.get('filteredPostsCount') > 0;
+  }.property('filteredPostsCount'),
+
+  /**
+    Can we append more posts to our current stream?
+
+    @property canAppendMore
+  **/
+  canAppendMore: Em.computed.and('notLoading', 'hasPosts', 'lastPostNotLoaded'),
+
+
+  /**
+    Can we prepend more posts to our current stream?
+
+    @property canPrependMore
+  **/
+  canPrependMore: Em.computed.and('notLoading', 'hasPosts', 'firstPostNotLoaded'),
+
+  /**
+    Have we loaded the first post in the stream?
+
+    @property firstPostLoaded
+  **/
+  firstPostLoaded: function() {
+    if (!this.get('hasLoadedData')) { return false; }
+    return !!this.get('posts').findProperty('id', this.get('stream')[0]);
+  }.property('hasLoadedData', 'posts.[]', 'stream.@each'),
+
+  firstPostNotLoaded: Em.computed.not('firstPostLoaded'),
+
+  /**
+    Have we loaded the last post in the stream?
+
+    @property lastPostLoaded
+  **/
+  lastPostLoaded: function() {
+    if (!this.get('hasLoadedData')) { return false; }
+    return !!this.get('posts').findProperty('id', _.last(this.get('stream')));
+  }.property('hasLoadedData', 'posts.[]', 'stream.@each'),
+
+  lastPostNotLoaded: Em.computed.not('lastPostLoaded'),
+
+  /**
+    Returns a JS Object of current stream filter options. It should match the query
+    params for the stream.
+
+    @property streamFilters
+  **/
+  streamFilters: function() {
+    var result = {};
+    if (this.get('bestOf')) { result.filter = "best_of"; }
+
+    var userFilters = this.get('userFilters');
+    if (userFilters) {
+      var userFiltersArray = this.get('userFilters').toArray();
+      if (userFiltersArray.length > 0) { result.username_filters = userFiltersArray; }
+    }
+
+    return result;
+  }.property('userFilters.[]', 'bestOf'),
+
+  /**
+    The text describing the current filters. For display in the pop up at the bottom of the
+    screen.
+
+    @property filterDesc
+  **/
+  filterDesc: function() {
+    var streamFilters = this.get('streamFilters');
+
+    if (streamFilters.filter && streamFilters.filter === "best_of") {
+      return Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.best_of", {
+        n_best_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.n_best_posts", { count: this.get('filteredPostsCount') }),
+        of_n_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.of_n_posts", { count: this.get('topic.posts_count') })
+      });
+    } else if (streamFilters.username_filters) {
+      return Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.user", {
+        n_posts: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.n_posts", { count: this.get('filteredPostsCount') }),
+        by_n_users: Em.String.i18n("topic.filters.by_n_users", { count: streamFilters.username_filters.length })
+      });
+    }
+    return "";
+  }.property('streamFilters.[]', 'topic.posts_count', 'posts.length'),
+
+  hasNoFilters: Em.computed.empty('filterDesc'),
+
+
+  /**
+    Returns the window of posts above the current set in the stream, bound to the top of the stream.
+    This is the collection we'll ask for when scrolling upwards.
+
+    @property previousWindow
+  **/
+  previousWindow: function() {
+    // If we can't find the last post loaded, bail
+    var firstPost = _.first(this.get('posts'));
+    if (!firstPost) { return []; }
+
+    // Find the index of the last post loaded, if not found, bail
+    var stream = this.get('stream');
+    var firstIndex = this.indexOf(firstPost);
+    if (firstIndex === -1) { return []; }
+
+    var startIndex = firstIndex - Discourse.SiteSettings.posts_per_page;
+    if (startIndex < 0) { startIndex = 0; }
+    return stream.slice(startIndex, firstIndex);
+
+  }.property('posts.@each', 'stream.@each'),
+
+  /**
+    Returns the window of posts below the current set in the stream, bound by the bottom of the
+    stream. This is the collection we use when scrolling downwards.
+
+    @property nextWindow
+  **/
+  nextWindow: function() {
+    // If we can't find the last post loaded, bail
+    var lastPost = _.last(this.get('posts'));
+    if (!lastPost) { return []; }
+
+    // Find the index of the last post loaded, if not found, bail
+    var stream = this.get('stream');
+    var lastIndex = this.indexOf(lastPost);
+    if (lastIndex === -1) { return []; }
+    if ((lastIndex + 1) >= this.get('filteredPostsCount')) { return []; }
+
+    // find our window of posts
+    return stream.slice(lastIndex+1, lastIndex+Discourse.SiteSettings.posts_per_page+1);
+  }.property('posts.@each', 'stream.@each'),
+
+
+  /**
+    Cancel any active filters on the stream and refresh it.
+
+    @method cancelFilter
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that resolves when the filter has been cancelled.
+  **/
+  cancelFilter: function() {
+    this.set('bestOf', false);
+    this.get('userFilters').clear();
+    return this.refresh();
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Toggle best of mode on the stream.
+
+    @method toggleBestOf
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that resolves when the best of stream has loaded.
+  **/
+  toggleBestOf: function() {
+    this.toggleProperty('bestOf');
+    this.refresh();
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Filter the stream to a particular user.
+
+    @method toggleParticipant
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that resolves when the filtered stream has loaded.
+  **/
+  toggleParticipant: function(username) {
+    var userFilters = this.get('userFilters');
+    if (userFilters.contains(username)) {
+      userFilters.remove(username);
+    } else {
+      userFilters.add(username);
+    }
+    return this.refresh();
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Loads a new set of posts into the stream. If you provide a `nearPost` option and the post
+    is already loaded, it will simply scroll there and load nothing.
+
+    @method refresh
+    @param {Object} opts Options for loading the stream
+      @param {Integer} opts.nearPost The post we want to find other posts near to.
+      @param {Boolean} opts.track_visit Whether or not to track this as a visit to a topic.
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that is resolved when the posts have been inserted into the stream.
+  **/
+  refresh: function(opts) {
+    opts = opts || {};
+    opts.nearPost = parseInt(opts.nearPost, 10);
+
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
+    var postStream = this;
+
+    // Do we already have the post in our list of posts? Jump there.
+    var postWeWant = this.get('posts').findProperty('post_number', opts.nearPost);
+    if (postWeWant) {
+      Discourse.TopicView.jumpToPost(topic.get('id'), opts.nearPost);
+      return Ember.Deferred.create(function(p) { p.reject(); });
+    }
+
+    // TODO: if we have all the posts in the filter, don't go to the server for them.
+    postStream.set('loadingFilter', true);
+
+    opts = _.merge(opts, postStream.get('streamFilters'));
+
+    // Request a topicView
+    return Discourse.PostStream.loadTopicView(topic.get('id'), opts).then(function (json) {
+      topic.updateFromJson(json);
+      postStream.updateFromJson(json.post_stream);
+      postStream.setProperties({ loadingFilter: false, loaded: true });
+
+      if (opts.nearPost) {
+        Discourse.TopicView.jumpToPost(topic.get('id'), opts.nearPost);
+      }
+
+      Discourse.URL.set('queryParams', postStream.get('streamFilters'));
+    }, function(result) {
+      postStream.errorLoading(result.status);
+    });
+  },
+  hasLoadedData: Em.computed.and('hasPosts', 'hasStream'),
+
+  /**
+    Appends the next window of posts to the stream. Call it when scrolling downwards.
+
+    @method appendMore
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that's resolved when the posts have been added.
+  **/
+  appendMore: function() {
+    var postStream = this,
+        rejectedPromise = Ember.Deferred.create(function(p) { p.reject(); });
+
+    // Make sure we can append more posts
+    if (!postStream.get('canAppendMore')) { return rejectedPromise; }
+
+    var postIds = postStream.get('nextWindow');
+    if (Ember.isEmpty(postIds)) { return rejectedPromise; }
+
+    postStream.set('loadingBelow', true);
+    return postStream.findPostsByIds(postIds).then(function(posts) {
+      posts.forEach(function(p) {
+        postStream.appendPost(p);
+      });
+      postStream.set('loadingBelow', false);
+    });
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Prepend the previous window of posts to the stream. Call it when scrolling upwards.
+
+    @method appendMore
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that's resolved when the posts have been added.
+  **/
+  prependMore: function() {
+    var postStream = this,
+        rejectedPromise = Ember.Deferred.create(function(p) { p.reject(); });
+
+    // Make sure we can append more posts
+    if (!postStream.get('canPrependMore')) { return rejectedPromise; }
+
+    var postIds = postStream.get('previousWindow');
+    if (Ember.isEmpty(postIds)) { return rejectedPromise; }
+
+    postStream.set('loadingAbove', true);
+    return postStream.findPostsByIds(postIds.reverse()).then(function(posts) {
+      posts.forEach(function(p) {
+        postStream.prependPost(p);
+      });
+      postStream.set('loadingAbove', false);
+    });
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Stage a post for insertion in the stream. It should be rendered right away under the
+    assumption that the post will succeed. We can then `commitPost` when it succeeds or
+    `undoPost` when it fails.
+
+    @method stagePost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} the post to stage in the stream
+    @param {Discourse.User} the user creating the post
+  **/
+  stagePost: function(post, user) {
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
+
+    topic.setProperties({
+      posts_count: (topic.get('posts_count') || 0) + 1,
+      last_posted_at: new Date(),
+      'details.last_poster': user,
+      highest_post_number: (topic.get('highest_post_number') || 0) + 1
+    });
+    this.set('stagingPost', true);
+
+    post.setProperties({
+      post_number: topic.get('highest_post_number'),
+      topic: topic,
+      created_at: new Date()
+    });
+
+    // If we're at the end of the stream, add the post
+    if (this.get('lastPostLoaded')) {
+      this.appendPost(post);
+    }
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Commit the post we staged. Call this after a save succeeds.
+
+    @method commitPost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} the post we saved in the stream.
+  **/
+  commitPost: function(post) {
+    this.appendPost(post);
+    this.get('stream').pushObject(post.get('id'));
+    this.set('stagingPost', false);
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Undo a post we've staged in the stream. Remove it from being rendered and revert the
+    state we changed.
+
+    @method undoPost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} the post to undo from the stream
+  **/
+  undoPost: function(post) {
+    this.posts.removeObject(post);
+
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
+
+    this.set('stagingPost', false);
+
+    topic.setProperties({
+      highest_post_number: (topic.get('highest_post_number') || 0) - 1,
+      posts_count: (topic.get('posts_count') || 0) - 1
+    });
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Prepends a single post to the stream.
+
+    @method prependPost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} post The post we're prepending
+    @returns {Discourse.Post} the post that was inserted.
+  **/
+  prependPost: function(post) {
+    this.get('posts').unshiftObject(this.storePost(post));
+    return post;
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Appends a single post into the stream.
+
+    @method appendPost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} post The post we're appending
+    @returns {Discourse.Post} the post that was inserted.
+  **/
+  appendPost: function(post) {
+    this.get('posts').addObject(this.storePost(post));
+    return post;
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Returns a post from the identity map if it's been inserted.
+
+    @method findLoadedPost
+    @param {Integer} id The post we want from the identity map.
+    @returns {Discourse.Post} the post that was inserted.
+  **/
+  findLoadedPost: function(id) {
+    return this.get('postIdentityMap').get(id);
+  },
+
+  /**
+    Finds and adds a post to the stream by id. Typically this would happen if we receive a message
+    from the message bus indicating there's a new post. We'll only insert it if we currently
+    have no filters.
+
+    @method triggerNewPostInStream
+    @param {Integer} postId The id of the new post to be inserted into the stream
+  **/
+  triggerNewPostInStream: function(postId) {
+    if (!postId) { return; }
+
+    // We only trigger if there are no filters active
+    if (!this.get('hasNoFilters')) { return; }
+
+    var lastPostLoaded = this.get('lastPostLoaded');
+
+    if (this.get('stream').indexOf(postId) === -1) {
+      this.get('stream').pushObject(postId);
+      if (lastPostLoaded) { this.appendMore(); }
+    }
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Given a JSON packet, update this stream and the posts that exist in it.
+
+    @param {Object} postStreamData The JSON data we want to update from.
+    @method updateFromJson
+  **/
+  updateFromJson: function(postStreamData) {
+    var postStream = this;
+
+    var posts = this.get('posts');
+    posts.clear();
+    if (postStreamData) {
+      // Load posts if present
+      postStreamData.posts.forEach(function(p) {
+        postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create(p));
+      });
+      delete postStreamData.posts;
+
+      // Update our attributes
+      postStream.setProperties(postStreamData);
+    }
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Stores a post in our identity map, and sets up the references it needs to
+    find associated objects like the topic. It might return a different reference
+    than you supplied if the post has already been loaded.
+
+    @method storePost
+    @param {Discourse.Post} post The post we're storing in the identity map
+    @returns {Discourse.Post} the post from the identity map
+  **/
+  storePost: function(post) {
+    var postId = post.get('id');
+    if (postId) {
+      var postIdentityMap = this.get('postIdentityMap'),
+          existing = postIdentityMap.get(post.get('id'));
+
+      if (existing) {
+        // If the post is in the identity map, update it and return the old reference.
+        existing.updateFromPost(post);
+        return existing;
+      }
+
+      post.set('topic', this.get('topic'));
+      postIdentityMap.set(post.get('id'), post);
+    }
+    return post;
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Given a list of postIds, returns a list of the posts we don't have in our
+    identity map and need to load.
+
+    @method listUnloadedIds
+    @param {Array} postIds The post Ids we want to load from the server
+    @returns {Array} the array of postIds we don't have loaded.
+  **/
+  listUnloadedIds: function(postIds) {
+    var unloaded = Em.A(),
+        postIdentityMap = this.get('postIdentityMap');
+    postIds.forEach(function(p) {
+      if (!postIdentityMap.has(p)) { unloaded.pushObject(p); }
+    });
+    return unloaded;
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Returns a list of posts in order requested, by id.
+
+    @method findPostsByIds
+    @param {Array} postIds The post Ids we want to retrieve, in order.
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that will resolve to the posts in the order requested.
+  **/
+  findPostsByIds: function(postIds) {
+    var unloaded = this.listUnloadedIds(postIds),
+        postIdentityMap = this.get('postIdentityMap');
+
+    // Load our unloaded posts by id
+    return this.loadIntoIdentityMap(unloaded).then(function() {
+      return postIds.map(function (p) {
+        return postIdentityMap.get(p);
+      });
+    });
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Loads a list of posts from the server and inserts them into our identity map.
+
+    @method loadIntoIdentityMap
+    @param {Array} postIds The post Ids we want to insert into the identity map.
+    @returns {Ember.Deferred} a promise that will resolve to the posts in the order requested.
+  **/
+  loadIntoIdentityMap: function(postIds) {
+
+    // If we don't want any posts, return a promise that resolves right away
+    if (Em.isEmpty(postIds)) {
+      return Ember.Deferred.promise(function (p) { p.resolve(); });
+    }
+
+    var url = "/t/" + this.get('topic.id') + "/posts.json",
+        data = { post_ids: postIds },
+        postStream = this,
+        result = Em.A();
+
+    return Discourse.ajax(url, {data: data}).then(function(result) {
+      var posts = Em.get(result, "post_stream.posts");
+      if (posts) {
+        posts.forEach(function (p) {
+          postStream.storePost(Discourse.Post.create(p));
+        });
+      }
+    });
+  },
+
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Returns the index of a particular post in the stream
+
+    @method indexOf
+    @param {Discourse.Post} post The post we're looking for
+  **/
+  indexOf: function(post) {
+    return this.get('stream').indexOf(post.get('id'));
+  },
+
+  /**
+    @private
+
+    Handles an error loading a topic based on a HTTP status code. Updates
+    the text to the correct values.
+
+    @method errorLoading
+    @param {Integer} status the HTTP status code
+    @param {Discourse.Topic} topic The topic instance we were trying to load
+  **/
+  errorLoading: function(status) {
+
+    var topic = this.get('topic');
+    topic.set('loadingFilter', false);
+    topic.set('errorLoading', true);
+
+    // If the result was 404 the post is not found
+    if (status === 404) {
+      topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.not_found.title'));
+      topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.not_found.description'));
+      return;
+    }
+
+    // If the result is 403 it means invalid access
+    if (status === 403) {
+      topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.invalid_access.title'));
+      topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.invalid_access.description'));
+      return;
+    }
+
+    // Otherwise supply a generic error message
+    topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.server_error.title'));
+    topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.server_error.description'));
+  }
+
+});
+
+
+Discourse.PostStream.reopenClass({
+
+  create: function(args) {
+    var postStream = this._super(args);
+    postStream.setProperties({
+      posts: Em.A(),
+      stream: Em.A(),
+      userFilters: Em.Set.create(),
+      postIdentityMap: Em.Map.create(),
+      bestOf: false,
+      loaded: false,
+      loadingAbove: false,
+      loadingBelow: false,
+      loadingFilter: false,
+      stagingPost: false
+    });
+    return postStream;
+  },
+
+  loadTopicView: function(topicId, args) {
+    var opts = _.merge({}, args);
+    var url = Discourse.getURL("/t/") + topicId;
+    if (opts.nearPost) {
+      url += "/" + opts.nearPost;
+    }
+    delete opts.nearPost;
+
+    return PreloadStore.getAndRemove("topic_" + topicId, function() {
+      return Discourse.ajax(url + ".json", {data: opts});
+    });
+
+  }
+
+});
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic.js
index 68a09a32c22..56fdfb8f101 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic.js
@@ -8,10 +8,13 @@
 **/
 Discourse.Topic = Discourse.Model.extend({
 
-  fewParticipants: function() {
-    if (!this.present('participants')) return null;
-    return this.get('participants').slice(0, 3);
-  }.property('participants'),
+  postStream: function() {
+    return Discourse.PostStream.create({topic: this});
+  }.property(),
+
+  details: function() {
+    return Discourse.TopicDetails.create({topic: this});
+  }.property(),
 
   canConvertToRegular: function() {
     var a = this.get('archetype');
@@ -34,8 +37,17 @@ Discourse.Topic = Discourse.Model.extend({
   }.property('id'),
 
   category: function() {
-    return Discourse.Category.list().findProperty('name', this.get('categoryName'));
-  }.property('categoryName'),
+    var categoryId = this.get('category_id');
+    if (categoryId) {
+      return Discourse.Category.list().findProperty('id', categoryId);
+    }
+
+    var categoryName = this.get('categoryName');
+    if (categoryName) {
+      return Discourse.Category.list().findProperty('name', categoryName);
+    }
+    return null;
+  }.property('category_id', 'categoryName'),
 
   shareUrl: function(){
     var user = Discourse.User.current();
@@ -150,17 +162,6 @@ Discourse.Topic = Discourse.Model.extend({
     });
   },
 
-  removeAllowedUser: function(username) {
-    var allowedUsers = this.get('allowed_users');
-
-    return Discourse.ajax("/t/" + this.get('id') + "/remove-allowed-user", {
-      type: 'PUT',
-      data: { username: username }
-    }).then(function(){
-      allowedUsers.removeObject(allowedUsers.find(function(item){ return item.username === username; }));
-    });
-  },
-
   favoriteTooltipKey: (function() {
     return this.get('starred') ? 'favorite.help.unstar' : 'favorite.help.star';
   }).property('starred'),
@@ -190,7 +191,7 @@ Discourse.Topic = Discourse.Model.extend({
   // Save any changes we've made to the model
   save: function() {
     // Don't save unless we can
-    if (!this.get('can_edit')) return;
+    if (!this.get('details.can_edit')) return;
 
     return Discourse.ajax(this.get('url'), {
       type: 'PUT',
@@ -218,138 +219,19 @@ Discourse.Topic = Discourse.Model.extend({
     return Discourse.ajax("/t/" + (this.get('id')), { type: 'DELETE' });
   },
 
-  // Load the posts for this topic
-  loadPosts: function(opts) {
+  // Update our attributes from a JSON result
+  updateFromJson: function(json) {
+    this.get('details').updateFromJson(json.details);
+
+    var keys = Object.keys(json);
+    keys.removeObject('details');
+    keys.removeObject('post_stream');
+
     var topic = this;
-
-    if (!opts) opts = {};
-
-    // Load the first post by default
-    if ((!opts.bestOf) && (!opts.nearPost)) opts.nearPost = 1;
-
-    // If we already have that post in the DOM, jump to it. Return a promise
-    // that's already complete.
-    if (Discourse.TopicView.scrollTo(this.get('id'), opts.nearPost)) {
-      return Ember.Deferred.promise(function(promise) { promise.resolve(); });
-    }
-
-    // If loading the topic succeeded...
-    var afterTopicLoaded = function(result) {
-
-      var closestPostNumber, lastPost, postDiff;
-
-      // Update the slug if different
-      if (result.slug) topic.set('slug', result.slug);
-
-      // If we want to scroll to a post that doesn't exist, just pop them to the closest
-      // one instead. This is likely happening due to a deleted post.
-      opts.nearPost = parseInt(opts.nearPost, 10);
-      closestPostNumber = 0;
-      postDiff = Number.MAX_VALUE;
-      _.each(result.posts,function(p) {
-        var diff = Math.abs(p.post_number - opts.nearPost);
-        if (diff < postDiff) {
-          postDiff = diff;
-          closestPostNumber = p.post_number;
-          if (diff === 0) return false;
-        }
-      });
-
-      opts.nearPost = closestPostNumber;
-      if (topic.get('participants')) {
-        topic.get('participants').clear();
-      }
-      if (result.suggested_topics) {
-        topic.set('suggested_topics', Em.A());
-      }
-
-      topic.mergeAttributes(result, { suggested_topics: Discourse.Topic });
-      topic.set('posts', Em.A());
-      if (opts.trackVisit && result.draft && result.draft.length > 0) {
-        Discourse.openComposer({
-          draft: Discourse.Draft.getLocal(result.draft_key, result.draft),
-          draftKey: result.draft_key,
-          draftSequence: result.draft_sequence,
-          topic: topic,
-          ignoreIfChanged: true
-        });
-      }
-
-      // Okay this is weird, but let's store the length of the next post when there
-      lastPost = null;
-      _.each(result.posts,function(p) {
-        p.scrollToAfterInsert = opts.nearPost;
-        var post = Discourse.Post.create(p);
-        post.set('topic', topic);
-        topic.get('posts').pushObject(post);
-        lastPost = post;
-      });
-
-      topic.set('allowed_users', Em.A(result.allowed_users));
-      topic.set('loaded', true);
-    };
-
-    var errorLoadingTopic = function(result) {
-
-      topic.set('errorLoading', true);
-
-      // If the result was 404 the post is not found
-      if (result.status === 404) {
-        topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.not_found.title'));
-        topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.not_found.description'));
-        return;
-      }
-
-      // If the result is 403 it means invalid access
-      if (result.status === 403) {
-        topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.invalid_access.title'));
-        topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.invalid_access.description'));
-        return;
-      }
-
-      // Otherwise supply a generic error message
-      topic.set('errorTitle', Em.String.i18n('topic.server_error.title'));
-      topic.set('message', Em.String.i18n('topic.server_error.description'));
-    };
-
-    // Finally, call our find method
-    return Discourse.Topic.find(this.get('id'), {
-      nearPost: opts.nearPost,
-      bestOf: opts.bestOf,
-      trackVisit: opts.trackVisit
-    }).then(afterTopicLoaded, errorLoadingTopic);
-  },
-
-  notificationReasonText: function() {
-    var locale_string = "topic.notifications.reasons." + this.get('notification_level');
-    if (typeof this.get('notifications_reason_id') === 'number') {
-      locale_string += "_" + this.get('notifications_reason_id');
-    }
-    return Em.String.i18n(locale_string, { username: Discourse.User.current('username_lower') });
-  }.property('notification_level', 'notifications_reason_id'),
-
-  updateNotifications: function(v) {
-    this.set('notification_level', v);
-    this.set('notifications_reason_id', null);
-    return Discourse.ajax("/t/" + (this.get('id')) + "/notifications", {
-      type: 'POST',
-      data: { notification_level: v }
+    keys.forEach(function (key) {
+      topic.set(key, json[key]);
     });
-  },
 
-  // use to add post to topics protecting from dupes
-  pushPosts: function(newPosts) {
-    var map, posts;
-    map = {};
-    posts = this.get('posts');
-    _.each(posts,function(post) {
-      map["" + post.post_number] = true;
-    });
-    _.each(newPosts,function(post) {
-      if (!map[post.get('post_number')]) {
-        posts.pushObject(post);
-      }
-    });
   },
 
   /**
@@ -422,8 +304,6 @@ Discourse.Topic.reopenClass({
   },
 
   // Load a topic, but accepts a set of filters
-  //  options:
-  //    onLoad - the callback after the topic is loaded
   find: function(topicId, opts) {
     var data, promise, url;
     url = Discourse.getURL("/t/") + topicId;
@@ -457,15 +337,7 @@ Discourse.Topic.reopenClass({
     }
 
     // Check the preload store. If not, load it via JSON
-    return PreloadStore.getAndRemove("topic_" + topicId, function() {
-      return Discourse.ajax(url + ".json", {data: data});
-    }).then(function(result) {
-      var first = result.posts[0];
-      if (first && opts && opts.bestOf) {
-        first.bestOfFirst = true;
-      }
-      return result;
-    });
+    return Discourse.ajax(url + ".json", {data: data});
   },
 
   mergeTopic: function(topicId, destinationTopicId) {
@@ -488,24 +360,6 @@ Discourse.Topic.reopenClass({
       promise.reject();
     });
     return promise;
-  },
-
-  create: function(obj, topicView) {
-    var result = this._super(obj);
-
-    if (result.participants) {
-      result.participants = _.map(result.participants,function(u) {
-        return Discourse.User.create(u);
-      });
-      result.fewParticipants = Em.A();
-      _.each(result.participants,function(p) {
-        // TODO should not be hardcoded
-        if (result.fewParticipants.length >= 8) return false;
-        result.fewParticipants.pushObject(p);
-      });
-    }
-
-    return result;
   }
 
 });
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic_details.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic_details.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..383974abcde
--- /dev/null
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/models/topic_details.js
@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
+/**
+  A model representing a Topic's details that aren't always present, such as a list of participants.
+  When showing topics in lists and such this information should not be required.
+
+  @class TopicDetails
+  @extends Discourse.Model
+  @namespace Discourse
+  @module Discourse
+**/
+Discourse.TopicDetails = Discourse.Model.extend({
+  loaded: false,
+
+  updateFromJson: function(details) {
+
+    if (details.allowed_users) {
+      details.allowed_users = details.allowed_users.map(function (u) {
+        return Discourse.User.create(u);
+      });
+    }
+
+    if (details.suggested_topics) {
+      details.suggested_topics = details.suggested_topics.map(function (st) {
+        return Discourse.Topic.create(st);
+      });
+    }
+
+    this.setProperties(details);
+    this.set('loaded', true);
+
+  },
+
+  fewParticipants: function() {
+    if (!this.present('participants')) return null;
+    return this.get('participants').slice(0, 3);
+  }.property('participants'),
+
+
+  notificationReasonText: function() {
+    var locale_string = "topic.notifications.reasons." + this.get('notification_level');
+    if (typeof this.get('notifications_reason_id') === 'number') {
+      locale_string += "_" + this.get('notifications_reason_id');
+    }
+    return Em.String.i18n(locale_string, { username: Discourse.User.current('username_lower') });
+  }.property('notification_level', 'notifications_reason_id'),
+
+
+  updateNotifications: function(v) {
+    this.set('notification_level', v);
+    this.set('notifications_reason_id', null);
+    return Discourse.ajax("/t/" + (this.get('topic.id')) + "/notifications", {
+      type: 'POST',
+      data: { notification_level: v }
+    });
+  }
+
+});
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/application_routes.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/application_routes.js
index d28b5d4291c..554e4767ef8 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/application_routes.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/application_routes.js
@@ -11,7 +11,6 @@ Discourse.Route.buildRoutes(function() {
   this.resource('topic', { path: '/t/:slug/:id' }, function() {
     this.route('fromParams', { path: '/' });
     this.route('fromParams', { path: '/:nearPost' });
-    this.route('bestOf', { path: '/best_of' });
   });
 
   // Generate static page routes
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/discourse_location.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/discourse_location.js
index 6c29043b7b3..5c02aa4120e 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/discourse_location.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/discourse_location.js
@@ -7,6 +7,35 @@
 var get = Ember.get, set = Ember.set;
 var popstateReady = false;
 
+// Thanks: https://gist.github.com/kares/956897
+var re = /([^&=]+)=?([^&]*)/g;
+var decode = function(str) {
+    return decodeURIComponent(str.replace(/\+/g, ' '));
+};
+$.parseParams = function(query) {
+    var params = {}, e;
+    if (query) {
+        if (query.substr(0, 1) === '?') {
+            query = query.substr(1);
+        }
+
+        while (e = re.exec(query)) {
+            var k = decode(e[1]);
+            var v = decode(e[2]);
+            if (params[k] !== undefined) {
+                if (!$.isArray(params[k])) {
+                    params[k] = [params[k]];
+                }
+                params[k].push(v);
+            } else {
+                params[k] = v;
+            }
+        }
+    }
+    return params;
+};
+
+
 /**
   `Ember.DiscourseLocation` implements the location API using the browser's
   `history.pushState` API.
@@ -16,6 +45,7 @@ var popstateReady = false;
   @extends Ember.Object
 */
 Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
+
   init: function() {
     set(this, 'location', get(this, 'location') || window.location);
     if ( $.inArray('state', $.event.props) < 0 ) {
@@ -32,6 +62,12 @@ Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
     @method initState
   */
   initState: function() {
+
+    var location = this.get('location');
+    if (location && location.search) {
+      this.set('queryParams', $.parseParams(location.search));
+    }
+
     this.replaceState(this.formatURL(this.getURL()));
     set(this, 'history', window.history);
   },
@@ -62,6 +98,7 @@ Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
     @param path {String}
   */
   setURL: function(path) {
+
     path = this.formatURL(path);
     if (this.getState() && this.getState().path !== path) {
       popstateReady = true;
@@ -79,6 +116,7 @@ Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
     @param path {String}
   */
   replaceURL: function(path) {
+
     path = this.formatURL(path);
 
     if (this.getState() && this.getState().path !== path) {
@@ -129,6 +167,21 @@ Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
     window.history.replaceState({ path: path }, null, path);
   },
 
+
+  queryParamsString: function() {
+    var params = this.get('queryParams');
+    if (Em.isEmpty(params) || Em.isEmpty(Object.keys(params))) {
+      return "";
+    } else {
+      return "?" + $.param(params).replace(/%5B/g, "[").replace(/%5D/g, "]");
+    }
+  }.property('queryParams'),
+
+  // When our query params change, update the URL
+  queryParamsStringChanged: function() {
+    this.replaceState(this.formatURL(this.getURL()));
+  }.observes('queryParamsString'),
+
   /**
     @private
 
@@ -182,7 +235,7 @@ Ember.DiscourseLocation = Ember.Object.extend({
       url = url.substring(rootURL.length);
     }
 
-    return rootURL + url;
+    return rootURL + url + this.get('queryParamsString');
   },
 
   willDestroy: function() {
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_best_of_route.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_best_of_route.js
deleted file mode 100644
index a2b0b99bfd6..00000000000
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_best_of_route.js
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,24 +0,0 @@
-/**
-  This route is used when a topic's "best of" filter is applied
-
-  @class TopicBestOfRoute
-  @extends Discourse.Route
-  @namespace Discourse
-  @module Discourse
-**/
-Discourse.TopicBestOfRoute = Discourse.Route.extend({
-
-  setupController: function(controller, params) {
-    var topicController;
-    params = params || {};
-    params.trackVisit = true;
-    params.bestOf = true;
-    topicController = this.controllerFor('topic');
-    topicController.cancelFilter();
-    topicController.set('bestOf', true);
-    topicController.loadPosts(params);
-  }
-
-});
-
-
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_from_params_route.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_from_params_route.js
index 82769d57494..38f14bc259c 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_from_params_route.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_from_params_route.js
@@ -10,11 +10,46 @@ Discourse.TopicFromParamsRoute = Discourse.Route.extend({
 
   setupController: function(controller, params) {
     params = params || {};
-    params.trackVisit = true;
+    params.track_visit = true;
+
+    var topic = this.modelFor('topic');
+    var postStream = topic.get('postStream');
+
+    var queryParams = Discourse.URL.get('queryParams');
+    if (queryParams) {
+      // Set bestOf on the postStream if present
+      postStream.set('bestOf', Em.get(queryParams, 'filter') === 'best_of');
+
+      // Set any username filters on the postStream
+      var userFilters = Em.get(queryParams, 'username_filters[]');
+      if (userFilters) {
+        if (typeof userFilters === "string") { userFilters = [userFilters]; }
+        userFilters.forEach(function (username) {
+          postStream.get('userFilters').add(username);
+        });
+      }
+    }
 
     var topicController = this.controllerFor('topic');
-    topicController.cancelFilter();
-    topicController.loadPosts(params);
+    postStream.refresh(params).then(function () {
+      topicController.setProperties({
+        currentPost: params.nearPost || 1,
+        progressPosition: params.nearPost || 1
+      });
+
+      if (topic.present('draft')) {
+        Discourse.openComposer({
+          draft: Discourse.Draft.getLocal(topic.get('draft_key'), topic.get('draft')),
+          draftKey: topic.get('draft_key'),
+          draftSequence: topic.get('draft_sequence'),
+          topic: topic,
+          ignoreIfChanged: true
+        });
+      }
+
+    });
+
+
   }
 
 });
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_route.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_route.js
index 517c06243d3..6b3ac7f0bd3 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_route.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/routes/topic_route.js
@@ -60,11 +60,9 @@ Discourse.TopicRoute = Discourse.Route.extend({
   },
 
   model: function(params) {
-    var currentModel, _ref;
-    if (currentModel = (_ref = this.controllerFor('topic')) ? _ref.get('content') : void 0) {
-      if (currentModel.get('id') === parseInt(params.id, 10)) {
-        return currentModel;
-      }
+    var currentModel = this.modelFor('topic');
+    if (currentModel && (currentModel.get('id') === parseInt(params.id, 10))) {
+      return currentModel;
     }
     return Discourse.Topic.create(params);
   },
@@ -85,23 +83,28 @@ Discourse.TopicRoute = Discourse.Route.extend({
     // Clear the search context
     this.controllerFor('search').set('searchContext', null);
 
-    var headerController, topicController;
-    topicController = this.controllerFor('topic');
-    topicController.cancelFilter();
-    topicController.unsubscribe();
+    var topicController = this.controllerFor('topic');
+    var postStream = topicController.get('postStream');
+    postStream.cancelFilter();
 
     topicController.set('multiSelect', false);
+    topicController.unsubscribe();
     this.controllerFor('composer').set('topic', null);
     Discourse.ScreenTrack.instance().stop();
 
+    var headerController;
     if (headerController = this.controllerFor('header')) {
       headerController.set('topic', null);
       headerController.set('showExtraInfo', false);
     }
+
+    // Clear any filters when we leave the route
+    Discourse.URL.set('queryParams', null);
   },
 
   setupController: function(controller, model) {
     controller.set('model', model);
+
     this.controllerFor('header').setProperties({
       topic: model,
       showExtraInfo: false
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/header.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/header.js.handlebars
index 88ef66e5229..0a68ca98dd0 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/header.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/header.js.handlebars
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
             <a {{bindAttr class=":star topic.starred:starred"}} {{action toggleStar}} href='#' {{bindAttr title="topic.favoriteTooltip"}}></a>
           {{/if}}
           <h1>
-          {{#if topic.fancy_title}}
+          {{#if topic.details.loaded}}
             {{topicStatus topic=topic}}
             <a class='topic-link' href='{{unbound topic.url}}'>{{{topic.fancy_title}}}</a>
           {{else}}
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/list/topic_list_item.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/list/topic_list_item.js.handlebars
index 9f7a67801f7..0b05f97ceb9 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/list/topic_list_item.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/list/topic_list_item.js.handlebars
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
 
   <td class='num likes'>
     {{#if like_count}}
-      <a href='{{url}}{{#if has_best_of}}/best_of{{/if}}' title='{{i18n topic.likes count="like_count"}}'>{{like_count}} <i class='icon-heart'></i></a>
+      <a href='{{url}}{{#if has_best_of}}?filter=best_of{{/if}}' title='{{i18n topic.likes count="like_count"}}'>{{like_count}} <i class='icon-heart'></i></a>
     {{/if}}
   </td>
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/post.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/post.js.handlebars
index c41e22f0d1f..ff89d2ee4de 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/post.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/post.js.handlebars
@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
 
     <div class='span5 gutter'>
       {{collection contentBinding="internalLinks" itemViewClass="Discourse.PostLinkView" tagName="ul" classNames="post-links"}}
-      {{#if controller.can_reply_as_new_topic}}
+      {{#if controller.details.can_reply_as_new_topic}}
         <a href='#' class='reply-new' {{action replyAsNewTopic this}}><i class='icon icon-plus'></i>{{i18n post.reply_as_new_topic}}</a>
       {{/if}}
     </div>
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/suggested_topic.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/suggested_topic.js.handlebars
index 50138c8850c..c1aa4841202 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/suggested_topic.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/suggested_topic.js.handlebars
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 {{#with view.content}}
   {{#group}}
   <td class='main-link'>
-    <a class='title' href="{{unbound lastReadUrl}}">{{{unbound fancy_title}}}</a>
+    <a class='title' href="{{unbound lastReadUrl}}">{{{unbound title}}}</a>
     {{#if unread}}
       <a href="{{unbound lastReadUrl}}" class='badge unread badge-notification' title='{{i18n topic.unread_posts count="unread"}}'>{{unbound unread}}</a>
     {{/if}}
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@
 
   <td class='num'>
     {{#if like_count}}
-      <a href='{{url}}{{#if has_best_of}}/best_of{{/if}}'>{{like_count}} <i class='icon-heart'></i></a>
+      <a href='{{url}}{{#if has_best_of}}?filter=best_of{{/if}}'>{{like_count}} <i class='icon-heart'></i></a>
     {{/if}}
   </td>
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic.js.handlebars
index 1a09bc300ac..45229c21193 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic.js.handlebars
@@ -1,140 +1,133 @@
-{{#if content}}
-  {{#if loaded}}
+{{#if postStream.loaded}}
 
-    {{#if view.firstPostLoaded}}
+  {{#if postStream.firstPostLoaded}}
     <div id='topic-title'>
       <div class='container'>
         <div class='inner'>
-          {{#if view.showFavoriteButton}}
-            <a {{bindAttr class=":star view.topic.starred:starred"}} {{action toggleStar}} href='#' {{bindAttr title="favoriteTooltip"}}></a>
+
+          {{#if showFavoriteButton}}
+            <a {{bindAttr class=":star starred:starred"}} {{action toggleStar}} href='#' {{bindAttr title="favoriteTooltip"}}></a>
           {{/if}}
-          {{#if view.editingTopic}}
-            <input id='edit-title' type='text' {{bindAttr value="view.topic.title"}} autofocus>
 
-            {{categoryChooser valueAttribute="name" source=view.topic.categoryName}}
+          {{#if editingTopic}}
+            {{textField id='edit-title' value=newTitle}}
+            {{categoryChooser valueAttribute="id" value=newCategoryId source=category_id}}
 
-            <button class='btn btn-primary btn-small' {{action finishedEdit target="view"}}><i class='icon-ok'></i></button>
-            <button class='btn btn-small' {{action cancelEdit target="view"}}><i class='icon-remove'></i></button>
+            <button class='btn btn-primary btn-small' {{action finishedEditingTopic}}><i class='icon-ok'></i></button>
+            <button class='btn btn-small' {{action cancelEditingTopic}}><i class='icon-remove'></i></button>
           {{else}}
             <h1>
-              {{#if view.topic.fancy_title}}
-                {{topicStatus topic=view.topic}}
-                <a href='{{unbound view.topic.url}}'>{{{view.topic.fancy_title}}}</a>
-              {{else}}
-                {{#if view.topic.errorLoading}}
-                  {{view.topic.errorTitle}}
-                {{else}}
-                  {{i18n topic.loading}}
-                {{/if}}
+              {{#if details.loaded}}
+                {{topicStatus topic=model}}
+                <a href='{{unbound url}}'>{{{fancy_title}}}</a>
               {{/if}}
               {{categoryLink category}}
 
-              {{#if view.topic.can_edit}}
-                <a href='#' {{action editTopic target="view"}} class='edit-topic' title='{{i18n edit}}'><i class="icon-pencil"></i></a>
+              {{#if details.can_edit}}
+                <a href='#' {{action editTopic}} class='edit-topic' title='{{i18n edit}}'><i class="icon-pencil"></i></a>
               {{/if}}
             </h1>
           {{/if}}
         </div>
       </div>
     </div>
-    {{/if}}
+  {{/if}}
 
-    <div class="container posts">
+  <div class="container posts">
 
-      {{view Discourse.SelectedPostsView}}
-      <div class="row">
-        <section class="topic-area" id='topic' data-topic-id='{{unbound id}}'>
-          <div class='posts-wrapper'>
-            <div id='topic-progress-wrapper'>
-              <nav id='topic-progress' title="{{i18n topic.progress.title}}" {{bindAttr class="hideProgress:hidden"}}>
-                <button id='jump-top' title="{{i18n topic.progress.jump_top}}" {{action jumpTop}}><i class="icon-circle-arrow-up"></i></button>
-                <div class='nums'>
-                  <h4 title="{{i18n topic.progress.current}}">{{view.progressPosition}}</h4> <span>{{i18n of_value}}</span> <h4>{{filtered_posts_count}}</h4>
-                </div>
-                <button id='jump-bottom' title="{{i18n topic.progress.jump_bottom}}" {{action jumpBottom}}><i class="icon-circle-arrow-down"></i></button>
-                <div class='bg'>&nbsp;</div>
-              </nav>
-            </div>
-
-            {{#if loadingAbove}}
-              <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
-            {{/if}}
-
-            {{collection itemViewClass="Discourse.PostView" contentBinding="posts" topicViewBinding="view"}}
-
-            {{#if loadingBelow}}
-              <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
-            {{/if}}
+    {{view Discourse.SelectedPostsView}}
+    <div class="row">
+      <section class="topic-area" id='topic' data-topic-id='{{unbound id}}'>
+        <div class='posts-wrapper'>
+          <div id='topic-progress-wrapper'>
+            <nav id='topic-progress' title="{{i18n topic.progress.title}}" {{bindAttr class="hideProgress:hidden"}}>
+              <button id='jump-top' title="{{i18n topic.progress.jump_top}}" {{bindAttr disabled="jumpTopDisabled"}} {{action jumpTop}}><i class="icon-circle-arrow-up"></i></button>
+              <div class='nums'>
+                <h4 title="{{i18n topic.progress.current}}">{{progressPosition}}</h4> <span>{{i18n of_value}}</span> <h4>{{postStream.filteredPostsCount}}</h4>
+              </div>
+              <button id='jump-bottom' title="{{i18n topic.progress.jump_bottom}}" {{bindAttr disabled="jumpBottomDisabled"}} {{action jumpBottom}}><i class="icon-circle-arrow-down"></i></button>
+              <div class='bg'>&nbsp;</div>
+            </nav>
           </div>
-          <div id='topic-bottom'></div>
 
-          {{#if loading}}
-            {{#unless loadingBelow}}
-              <div class='spinner small'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
-            {{/unless}}
-          {{else}}
-            {{#if view.fullyLoaded}}
-
-              {{view Discourse.TopicClosingView topicBinding="model"}}
-
-              {{view Discourse.TopicFooterButtonsView topicBinding="model"}}
-
-              {{#if suggested_topics.length}}
-                <div id='suggested-topics'>
-
-                  <h3>{{i18n suggested_topics.title}}</h3>
-
-                  <div class='topics'>
-                    <table id="topic-list">
-                      <tr>
-                        <th>
-                          {{i18n topic.title}}
-                        </th>
-                        <th>{{i18n category_title}}</th>
-                        <th class='num'>{{i18n posts}}</th>
-                        <th class='num'>{{i18n likes}}</th>
-                        <th class='num'>{{i18n views}}</th>
-                        <th class='num activity' colspan='2'>{{i18n activity}}</th>
-                      </tr>
-
-                    {{each suggested_topics itemTagName="tr" itemViewClass="Discourse.SuggestedTopicView"}}
-                    </table>
-                  </div>
-                  <br/>
-                  <h3>{{{view.browseMoreMessage}}}</h3>
-                </div>
-              {{/if}}
-            {{/if}}
+          {{#if postStream.loadingAbove}}
+            <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
           {{/if}}
 
+          {{#unless postStream.loadingFilter}}
+            {{collection itemViewClass="Discourse.PostView" contentBinding="postStream.posts" topicViewBinding="view"}}
+          {{/unless}}
 
-        </section>
-      </div>
+          {{#if postStream.loadingBelow}}
+            <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
+          {{/if}}
+        </div>
+        <div id='topic-bottom'></div>
 
+        {{#if postStream.loadingFilter}}
+          <div class='spinner small'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
+        {{else}}
+          {{#if postStream.lastPostLoaded}}
+
+            {{view Discourse.TopicClosingView topicBinding="model"}}
+            {{view Discourse.TopicFooterButtonsView topicBinding="model"}}
+
+            {{#if details.suggested_topics.length}}
+              <div id='suggested-topics'>
+
+                <h3>{{i18n suggested_topics.title}}</h3>
+
+                <div class='topics'>
+                  <table id="topic-list">
+                    <tr>
+                      <th>
+                        {{i18n topic.title}}
+                      </th>
+                      <th>{{i18n category_title}}</th>
+                      <th class='num'>{{i18n posts}}</th>
+                      <th class='num'>{{i18n likes}}</th>
+                      <th class='num'>{{i18n views}}</th>
+                      <th class='num activity' colspan='2'>{{i18n activity}}</th>
+                    </tr>
+
+                  {{each details.suggested_topics itemTagName="tr" itemViewClass="Discourse.SuggestedTopicView"}}
+                  </table>
+                </div>
+                <br/>
+                <h3>{{{view.browseMoreMessage}}}</h3>
+              </div>
+            {{/if}}
+          {{/if}}
+        {{/if}}
+
+
+      </section>
     </div>
 
+  </div>
+
+{{else}}
+  {{#if message}}
+    <div class='container'>
+      <div class='message'>
+
+        <h2>{{message}}</h2>
+
+        <p>
+          {{#linkTo list.latest}}{{i18n topic.back_to_list}}{{/linkTo}}
+      </div>
+    </div>
   {{else}}
-    {{#if message}}
-      <div class='container'>
-        <div class='message'>
-
-          <h2>{{message}}</h2>
-
-          <p>
-            {{#linkTo list.latest}}{{i18n topic.back_to_list}}{{/linkTo}}
-        </div>
-      </div>
-    {{else}}
-      <div class='container'>
-        <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
-      </div>
-    {{/if}}
+    <div class='container'>
+      <div class='spinner'>{{i18n loading}}</div>
+    </div>
   {{/if}}
 {{/if}}
 
-<div id='topic-filter' style='display: none'>
-  {{filterDesc}}
-  <a href='#' {{action cancelFilter}}>{{i18n topic.filters.cancel}}</a>
+
+<div id='topic-filter' {{bindAttr class="postStream.hasNoFilters:hidden"}}>
+  {{postStream.filterDesc}}
+  <a href='#' {{action cancelFilter target="postStream"}}>{{i18n topic.filters.cancel}}</a>
 </div>
 
 {{render share}}
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_admin_menu.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_admin_menu.js.handlebars
index 3b9258ef430..3a7fe1bb057 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_admin_menu.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_admin_menu.js.handlebars
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
           <button {{action toggleMultiSelect}} class='btn btn-admin'><i class='icon-tasks'></i> {{i18n topic.actions.multi_select}}</button>
         </li>
 
-      {{#if can_delete}}
+      {{#if details.can_delete}}
         <li>
           <button {{action deleteTopic}} class='btn btn-admin btn-danger'><i class='icon-trash'></i> {{i18n topic.actions.delete}}</button>
         </li>
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/best_of_toggle.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/best_of_toggle.js.handlebars
index dc949e79f03..1d693781023 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/best_of_toggle.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/best_of_toggle.js.handlebars
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 <h3><i class='icon icon-bullhorn'></i> {{i18n best_of.title}}</h3>
-{{#if bestOf}}
+{{#if postStream.bestOf}}
   <p>{{{i18n best_of.enabled_description}}}</p>
-  <button class='btn' {{action cancelFilter}}>{{i18n best_of.disable}}</button>
+  <button class='btn' {{action toggleBestOf target="postStream"}}>{{i18n best_of.disable}}</button>
 {{else}}
   <p>{{{i18n best_of.description count="posts_count"}}}</p>
-  <button class='btn' {{action enableBestOf}}>{{i18n best_of.enable}}</button>
+  <button class='btn' {{action toggleBestOf target="postStream"}}>{{i18n best_of.enable}}</button>
 {{/if}}
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/info.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/info.js.handlebars
index f1b5088e611..f6378b96193 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/info.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/info.js.handlebars
@@ -17,14 +17,14 @@
       <li>
         <a {{bindAttr href="url"}}>
         <h4>{{i18n created}}</h4>
-        {{avatar created_by imageSize="tiny"}}
+        {{avatar details.created_by imageSize="tiny"}}
         {{date created_at}}
         </a>
       </li>
       <li>
         <a {{bindAttr href="lastPostUrl"}}>
         <h4>{{i18n last_post}}</h4>
-        {{avatar last_poster imageSize="tiny"}}
+        {{avatar details.last_poster imageSize="tiny"}}
         {{date last_posted_at}}
         </a>
       </li>
@@ -38,11 +38,11 @@
       </li>
       <li>
         <h4>{{i18n links}}</h4>
-        {{number links.length}}
+        {{number details.links.length}}
       </li>
-      {{#if fewParticipants}}
+      {{#if details.fewParticipants}}
       <li class='avatars'>
-        {{#each fewParticipants}}{{participant participant=this}}{{/each}}
+        {{#each details.fewParticipants}}{{participant participant=this}}{{/each}}
       </li>
       {{/if}}
     </ul>
@@ -53,12 +53,12 @@
     <ul class="clearfix">
       <li>
         <h4>{{i18n created}}</h4>
-        {{avatar created_by imageSize="tiny"}}
+        {{avatar details.created_by imageSize="tiny"}}
         <a {{bindAttr href="url"}}>{{date created_at}}</a>
       </li>
       <li>
         <h4>{{i18n last_post}}</h4>
-        {{avatar last_poster imageSize="tiny"}}
+        {{avatar details.last_poster imageSize="tiny"}}
         <a {{bindAttr href="lastPostUrl"}}>{{date last_posted_at}}</a>
       </li>
       <li>
@@ -72,9 +72,9 @@
     </ul>
   </section>
 
-  {{#if participants}}
+  {{#if details.participants}}
     <section class='avatars clearfix'>
-      {{#each participants}}{{participant participant=this}}{{/each}}
+      {{#each details.participants}}{{participant participant=this}}{{/each}}
     </section>
   {{/if}}
 
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@
 
         {{#if view.parentView.showAllLinksControls}}
           <div class='link-summary'>
-            <a href='#' {{action showAllLinks target="view.parentView"}}>{{i18n topic_summary.links_shown totalLinks="links.length"}}</a>
+            <a href='#' {{action showAllLinks target="view.parentView"}}>{{i18n topic_summary.links_shown totalLinks="details.links.length"}}</a>
           </div>
         {{/if}}
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/private_message.js.handlebars b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/private_message.js.handlebars
index a915efcd8db..8de464e3d84 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/private_message.js.handlebars
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/templates/topic_summary/private_message.js.handlebars
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 <h3><i class='icon icon-envelope-alt'></i> {{i18n private_message_info.title}}</h3>
 <div class='participants clearfix'>
-  {{#each allowed_groups}}
+  {{#each details.allowed_groups}}
   <div class='user group'>
     #{{unbound name}}
   </div>
   {{/each}}
-  {{#each allowed_users}}
+  {{#each details.allowed_users}}
   <div class='user'>
     <a href='/users/{{lower username}}'>
       {{avatar this imageSize="small"}}
@@ -13,13 +13,13 @@
     <a href='/users/{{lower username}}'>
       {{unbound username}}
     </a>
-    {{#if controller.model.can_remove_allowed_users}}
+    {{#if controller.model.details.can_remove_allowed_users}}
     <a class='remove-invited' {{action removeAllowedUser username}}><i class="icon-remove"></i></a>
     {{/if}}
   </div>
   {{/each}}
 </div>
-{{#if can_invite_to}}
+{{#if details.can_invite_to}}
   <div class='controls'>
     <button class='btn' {{action showPrivateInvite}}>{{i18n private_message_info.invite}}</button>
   </div>
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/notifications_button.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/notifications_button.js
index 97bb546831f..a6ffadd0537 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/notifications_button.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/notifications_button.js
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 **/
 Discourse.NotificationsButton = Discourse.DropdownButtonView.extend({
   title: Em.String.i18n('topic.notifications.title'),
-  longDescriptionBinding: 'topic.notificationReasonText',
+  longDescriptionBinding: 'topic.details.notificationReasonText',
 
   dropDownContent: [
     [Discourse.Topic.NotificationLevel.WATCHING, 'topic.notifications.watching'],
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ Discourse.NotificationsButton = Discourse.DropdownButtonView.extend({
 
   text: function() {
     var key = (function() {
-      switch (this.get('topic.notification_level')) {
+      switch (this.get('topic.details.notification_level')) {
         case Discourse.Topic.NotificationLevel.WATCHING: return 'watching';
         case Discourse.Topic.NotificationLevel.TRACKING: return 'tracking';
         case Discourse.Topic.NotificationLevel.REGULAR: return 'regular';
@@ -36,10 +36,10 @@ Discourse.NotificationsButton = Discourse.DropdownButtonView.extend({
       }
     })();
     return icon + (Ember.String.i18n("topic.notifications." + key + ".title")) + "<span class='caret'></span>";
-  }.property('topic.notification_level'),
+  }.property('topic.details.notification_level'),
 
   clicked: function(id) {
-    return this.get('topic').updateNotifications(id);
+    return this.get('topic.details').updateNotifications(id);
   }
 
 });
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/reply_button.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/reply_button.js
index d394816a73a..09e121aee85 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/reply_button.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/buttons/reply_button.js
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ Discourse.ReplyButton = Discourse.ButtonView.extend({
   classNames: ['btn', 'btn-primary', 'create'],
   attributeBindings: ['disabled'],
   helpKey: 'topic.reply.help',
-  disabled: Em.computed.not('controller.content.can_create_post'),
+  disabled: Em.computed.not('controller.model.details.can_create_post'),
 
   text: function() {
     var archetypeCapitalized = this.get('controller.content.archetype').capitalize();
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/participant_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/participant_view.js
index 93d9979ce9b..f9251adbef8 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/participant_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/participant_view.js
@@ -9,9 +9,9 @@
 Discourse.ParticipantView = Discourse.View.extend({
   templateName: 'participant',
 
-  toggled: (function() {
-    return this.get('controller.userFilters').contains(this.get('participant.username'));
-  }).property('controller.userFilters.[]')
+  toggled: function() {
+    return this.get('controller.postStream.userFilters').contains(this.get('participant.username'));
+  }.property('controller.postStream.userFilters.[]')
 
 });
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_menu_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_menu_view.js
index d9a949e63cd..d327ccfc525 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_menu_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_menu_view.js
@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@ Discourse.PostMenuView = Discourse.View.extend({
 
   // Delete button
   renderDelete: function(post, buffer) {
-    if (post.get('post_number') === 1 && this.get('controller.content.can_delete')) {
+    if (post.get('post_number') === 1 && this.get('controller.model.details.can_delete')) {
       buffer.push("<button title=\"" +
                   (Em.String.i18n("topic.actions.delete")) +
                   "\" data-action=\"deleteTopic\" class='delete'><i class=\"icon-trash\"></i></button>");
@@ -138,7 +138,7 @@ Discourse.PostMenuView = Discourse.View.extend({
 
   // Reply button
   renderReply: function(post, buffer) {
-    if (!this.get('controller.content.can_create_post')) return;
+    if (!this.get('controller.model.details.can_create_post')) return;
     buffer.push("<button title=\"" +
                  (Em.String.i18n("post.controls.reply")) +
                  "\" class='create' data-action=\"reply\"><i class='icon-reply'></i>" +
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_view.js
index 15c9f009cca..6f374f332ce 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/post_view.js
@@ -98,9 +98,9 @@ Discourse.PostView = Discourse.View.extend({
   updateQuoteElements: function($aside, desc) {
     var navLink = "";
     var quoteTitle = Em.String.i18n("post.follow_quote");
-    var postNumber;
+    var postNumber = $aside.data('post');
 
-    if (postNumber = $aside.data('post')) {
+    if (postNumber) {
 
       // If we have a topic reference
       var topicId, topic;
@@ -209,21 +209,6 @@ Discourse.PostView = Discourse.View.extend({
   didInsertElement: function() {
     var $post = this.$();
     var post = this.get('post');
-    var postNumber = post.get('scrollToAfterInsert');
-
-    // Do we want to scroll to this post now that we've inserted it?
-    if (postNumber) {
-      Discourse.TopicView.scrollTo(this.get('post.topic_id'), postNumber);
-      if (postNumber === post.get('post_number')) {
-        var $contents = $('.topic-body .contents', $post);
-        var originalCol = $contents.css('backgroundColor');
-        $contents.css({
-          backgroundColor: "#ffffcc"
-        }).animate({
-          backgroundColor: originalCol
-        }, 2500);
-      }
-    }
     this.showLinkCounts();
 
     // Track this post
@@ -233,21 +218,9 @@ Discourse.PostView = Discourse.View.extend({
     Discourse.SyntaxHighlighting.apply($post);
     Discourse.Lightbox.apply($post);
 
-    // If we're scrolling upwards, adjust the scroll position accordingly
-    var scrollTo = this.get('post.scrollTo');
-    if (scrollTo) {
-      $('body').scrollTop(($(document).height() - scrollTo.height) + scrollTo.top);
-      $('section.divider').addClass('fade');
-    }
-
     // Find all the quotes
     this.insertQuoteControls();
 
     $post.addClass('ready');
-    // be sure that eyeline tracked it
-    var controller = this.get('controller');
-    if (controller && controller.postRendered) {
-      controller.postRendered(post);
-    }
   }
 });
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_closing_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_closing_view.js
index c3248235b83..c4743cbe16d 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_closing_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_closing_view.js
@@ -13,12 +13,12 @@ Discourse.TopicClosingView = Discourse.View.extend({
 
   contentChanged: function() {
     this.rerender();
-  }.observes('topic.auto_close_at'),
+  }.observes('topic.details.auto_close_at'),
 
   render: function(buffer) {
-    if (!this.present('topic.auto_close_at')) return;
+    if (!this.present('topic.details.auto_close_at')) return;
 
-    var autoCloseAt = moment(this.get('topic.auto_close_at'));
+    var autoCloseAt = moment(this.get('topic.details.auto_close_at'));
 
     if (autoCloseAt < new Date()) return;
 
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_footer_buttons_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_footer_buttons_view.js
index 60893b83595..68c7835fd84 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_footer_buttons_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_footer_buttons_view.js
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ Discourse.TopicFooterButtonsView = Discourse.ContainerView.extend({
       if (!topic.get('isPrivateMessage')) {
 
         // We hide some controls from private messages
-        if (this.get('topic.can_invite_to')) {
+        if (this.get('topic.details.can_invite_to')) {
           this.attachViewClass(Discourse.InviteReplyButton);
         }
         this.attachViewClass(Discourse.FavoriteButton);
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_summary/topic_summary_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_summary/topic_summary_view.js
index 68c2029191a..c9c1f86619b 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_summary/topic_summary_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_summary/topic_summary_view.js
@@ -7,25 +7,24 @@
   @module Discourse
 **/
 Discourse.TopicSummaryView = Discourse.ContainerView.extend({
-  topicBinding: 'controller.content',
   classNameBindings: ['hidden', ':topic-summary'],
-  LINKS_SHOWN: 5,
   allLinksShown: false,
 
+  topic: Em.computed.alias('controller.model'),
+
   showAllLinksControls: function() {
-    if (this.blank('topic.links')) return false;
     if (this.get('allLinksShown')) return false;
-    if (this.get('topic.links.length') <= this.LINKS_SHOWN) return false;
+    if ((this.get('topic.details.links.length') || 0) <= Discourse.TopicSummaryView.LINKS_SHOWN) return false;
     return true;
-  }.property('allLinksShown', 'topic.links'),
+  }.property('allLinksShown', 'topic.details.links'),
 
   infoLinks: function() {
-    if (this.blank('topic.links')) return [];
+    if (this.blank('topic.details.links')) return [];
 
-    var allLinks = this.get('topic.links');
+    var allLinks = this.get('topic.details.links');
     if (this.get('allLinksShown')) return allLinks;
-    return allLinks.slice(0, this.LINKS_SHOWN);
-  }.property('topic.links', 'allLinksShown'),
+    return allLinks.slice(0, Discourse.TopicSummaryView.LINKS_SHOWN);
+  }.property('topic.details.links', 'allLinksShown'),
 
   newPostCreated: function() {
     this.rerender();
@@ -77,4 +76,6 @@ Discourse.TopicSummaryView = Discourse.ContainerView.extend({
   }
 });
 
-
+Discourse.TopicSummaryView.reopenClass({
+  LINKS_SHOWN: 5
+});
diff --git a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_view.js b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_view.js
index d6485c367f0..a8293b66d87 100644
--- a/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_view.js
+++ b/app/assets/javascripts/discourse/views/topic_view.js
@@ -12,23 +12,24 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
   topicBinding: 'controller.content',
   userFiltersBinding: 'controller.userFilters',
   classNameBindings: ['controller.multiSelect:multi-select', 'topic.archetype', 'topic.category.secure:secure_category'],
-  progressPosition: 1,
   menuVisible: true,
   SHORT_POST: 1200,
 
+  postStream: Em.computed.alias('controller.postStream'),
+
   // Update the progress bar using sweet animations
   updateBar: function() {
-    var $topicProgress, bg, currentWidth, progressWidth, ratio, totalWidth;
-    if (!this.get('topic.loaded')) return;
-    $topicProgress = $('#topic-progress');
+    if (!this.get('postStream.loaded')) return;
+
+    var $topicProgress = $('#topic-progress');
     if (!$topicProgress.length) return;
 
-    ratio = this.get('progressPosition') / this.get('topic.filtered_posts_count');
-    totalWidth = $topicProgress.width();
-    progressWidth = ratio * totalWidth;
-    bg = $topicProgress.find('.bg');
+    var ratio = this.get('controller.progressPosition') / this.get('postStream.filteredPostsCount');
+    var totalWidth = $topicProgress.width();
+    var progressWidth = ratio * totalWidth;
+    var bg = $topicProgress.find('.bg');
     bg.stop(true, true);
-    currentWidth = bg.width();
+    var currentWidth = bg.width();
 
     if (currentWidth === totalWidth) {
       bg.width(currentWidth - 1);
@@ -40,9 +41,8 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
       bg.css("border-right-width", "1px");
     }
 
-    // Disable animation for now so it performs better
     bg.width(progressWidth);
-  }.observes('progressPosition', 'topic.filtered_posts_count', 'topic.loaded'),
+  }.observes('controller.progressPosition', 'postStream.filteredPostsCount', 'topic.loaded'),
 
   updateTitle: function() {
     var title = this.get('topic.title');
@@ -60,28 +60,9 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     }
 
     var postUrl = topic.get('url');
-    if (current > 1) {
-      postUrl += "/" + current;
-    } else {
-      if (this.get('controller.bestOf')) {
-        postUrl += "/best_of";
-      }
-    }
+    if (current > 1) { postUrl += "/" + current; }
     Discourse.URL.replaceState(postUrl);
-
-    // Show appropriate jump tools
-    if (current === 1) {
-      $('#jump-top').attr('disabled', true);
-    } else {
-      $('#jump-top').attr('disabled', false);
-    }
-
-    if (current === this.get('topic.highest_post_number')) {
-      $('#jump-bottom').attr('disabled', true);
-    } else {
-      $('#jump-bottom').attr('disabled', false);
-    }
-  }.observes('controller.currentPost', 'controller.bestOf', 'topic.highest_post_number'),
+  }.observes('controller.currentPost', 'highest_post_number'),
 
   composeChanged: function() {
     var composerController = Discourse.get('router.composerController');
@@ -98,8 +79,6 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     // Unbind link tracking
     this.$().off('mouseup.discourse-redirect', '.cooked a, a.track-link');
 
-    this.get('controller').set('onPostRendered', null);
-
     this.resetExamineDockCache();
 
     // this happens after route exit, stuff could have trickled in
@@ -110,25 +89,20 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     this.bindScrolling({debounce: 0});
 
     var topicView = this;
-    $(window).bind('resize.discourse-on-scroll', function() { topicView.updatePosition(false); });
-
-    var controller = this.get('controller');
-    controller.set('onPostRendered', function(){
-      topicView.postsRendered.apply(topicView);
-    });
+    $(window).bind('resize.discourse-on-scroll', function() { topicView.updatePosition(); });
 
     this.$().on('mouseup.discourse-redirect', '.cooked a, a.track-link', function(e) {
       return Discourse.ClickTrack.trackClick(e);
     });
 
-    this.updatePosition(true);
+    this.updatePosition();
   },
 
   debounceLoadSuggested: Discourse.debounce(function(){
     if (this.get('isDestroyed') || this.get('isDestroying')) { return; }
 
     var incoming = this.get('topicTrackingState.newIncoming');
-    var suggested = this.get('topic.suggested_topics');
+    var suggested = this.get('topic.details.suggested_topics');
     var topicId = this.get('topic.id');
 
     if(suggested) {
@@ -155,11 +129,6 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     this.debounceLoadSuggested();
   }.observes('topicTrackingState.incomingCount'),
 
-  // Triggered whenever any posts are rendered, debounced to save over calling
-  postsRendered: Discourse.debounce(function() {
-    this.updatePosition(false);
-  }, 50),
-
   resetRead: function(e) {
     Discourse.ScreenTrack.instance().reset();
     this.get('controller').unsubscribe();
@@ -192,8 +161,8 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
 
     if (post) {
       var postNumber = post.get('post_number');
-      if (postNumber > (this.get('topic.last_read_post_number') || 0)) {
-        this.set('topic.last_read_post_number', postNumber);
+      if (postNumber > (this.get('last_read_post_number') || 0)) {
+        this.set('last_read_post_number', postNumber);
       }
       if (!post.get('read')) {
         post.set('read', true);
@@ -202,174 +171,6 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     }
   },
 
-  observeFirstPostLoaded: (function() {
-    var loaded, old, posts;
-    posts = this.get('topic.posts');
-    // TODO topic.posts stores non ember objects in it for a period of time, this is bad
-    loaded = posts && posts[0] && posts[0].post_number === 1;
-
-    // I avoided a computed property cause I did not want to set it, over and over again
-    old = this.get('firstPostLoaded');
-    if (loaded) {
-      if (old !== true) {
-        this.set('firstPostLoaded', true);
-      }
-    } else {
-      if (old !== false) {
-        this.set('firstPostLoaded', false);
-      }
-    }
-  }).observes('topic.posts.@each'),
-
-  // Load previous posts if there are some
-  prevPage: function($post) {
-    var postView = Ember.View.views[$post.prop('id')];
-    if (!postView) return;
-
-    var post = postView.get('post');
-    if (!post) return;
-
-    // We don't load upwards from the first page
-    if (post.post_number === 1) return;
-
-    // double check
-    if (this.topic && this.topic.posts && this.topic.posts.length > 0 && this.topic.posts[0].post_number !== post.post_number) return;
-
-    // half mutex
-    if (this.get('controller.loading')) return;
-    this.set('controller.loading', true);
-    this.set('controller.loadingAbove', true);
-    var opts = $.extend({ postsBefore: post.get('post_number') }, this.get('controller.postFilters'));
-
-    var topicView = this;
-    return Discourse.Topic.find(this.get('topic.id'), opts).then(function(result) {
-      var lastPostNum, posts;
-      posts = topicView.get('topic.posts');
-
-      // Add a scrollTo record to the last post inserted to the DOM
-      lastPostNum = result.posts[0].post_number;
-      _.each(result.posts,function(post) {
-        var newPost;
-        newPost = Discourse.Post.create(post, topicView.get('topic'));
-        if (post.post_number === lastPostNum) {
-          newPost.set('scrollTo', {
-            top: $(window).scrollTop(),
-            height: $(document).height()
-          });
-        }
-        return posts.unshiftObject(newPost);
-      });
-      topicView.set('controller.loading', false);
-      return topicView.set('controller.loadingAbove', false);
-    });
-  },
-
-  fullyLoaded: (function() {
-    return this.get('controller.seenBottom') || this.get('topic.at_bottom');
-  }).property('topic.at_bottom', 'controller.seenBottom'),
-
-  // Load new posts if there are some
-  nextPage: function($post) {
-    if (this.get('controller.loading') || this.get('controller.seenBottom')) return;
-    return this.loadMore(this.getPost($post));
-  },
-
-  postCountChanged: function() {
-    this.set('controller.seenBottom', false);
-  }.observes('topic.highest_post_number'),
-
-  loadMore: function(post) {
-    if (!post) return;
-    if (this.get('controller.loading')) return;
-
-    // Don't load if we know we're at the bottom
-    if (this.get('topic.highest_post_number') === post.get('post_number')) return;
-
-    if (this.get('controller.seenBottom')) return;
-
-    // Don't double load ever
-    if (this.topic.posts[this.topic.posts.length-1].post_number !== post.post_number) return;
-    this.set('controller.loadingBelow', true);
-    this.set('controller.loading', true);
-    var opts = $.extend({ postsAfter: post.get('post_number') }, this.get('controller.postFilters'));
-
-    var topicView = this;
-    var topic = this.get('controller.content');
-    return Discourse.Topic.find(topic.get('id'), opts).then(function(result) {
-      if (result.at_bottom || result.posts.length === 0) {
-        topicView.set('controller.seenBottom', 'true');
-      }
-      topic.pushPosts(_.map(result.posts,function(p) {
-        return Discourse.Post.create(p, topic);
-      }));
-      if (result.suggested_topics) {
-        var suggested = Em.A();
-        _.each(result.suggested_topics,function(topic) {
-          suggested.pushObject(Discourse.Topic.create(topic));
-        });
-        topicView.set('topic.suggested_topics', suggested);
-      }
-      topicView.set('controller.loadingBelow', false);
-      return topicView.set('controller.loading', false);
-    });
-  },
-
-  cancelEdit: function() {
-    // close editing mode
-    this.set('editingTopic', false);
-  },
-
-  finishedEdit: function() {
-
-    // TODO: This should be in a controller and use proper text fields
-
-    var topicView = this;
-
-    if (this.get('editingTopic')) {
-      var topic = this.get('topic');
-      // retrieve the title from the text field
-      var newTitle = $('#edit-title').val();
-      // retrieve the category from the combox box
-      var newCategoryName = $('#topic-title select option:selected').val();
-      // manually update the titles & category
-      topic.setProperties({
-        title: newTitle,
-        fancy_title: newTitle,
-        categoryName: newCategoryName
-      });
-      // save the modifications
-      topic.save().then(function(result){
-        // update the title if it has been changed (cleaned up) server-side
-        var title = result.basic_topic.fancy_title;
-        topic.setProperties({
-          title: title,
-          fancy_title: title
-        });
-
-      }, function(error) {
-        topicView.set('editingTopic', true);
-        if (error && error.responseText) {
-          bootbox.alert($.parseJSON(error.responseText).errors[0]);
-        } else {
-          bootbox.alert(Em.String.i18n('generic_error'));
-        }
-      });
-      // close editing mode
-      topicView.set('editingTopic', false);
-    }
-  },
-
-  editTopic: function() {
-    if (!this.get('topic.can_edit')) return false;
-    // enable editing mode
-    this.set('editingTopic', true);
-    return false;
-  },
-
-  showFavoriteButton: function() {
-    return Discourse.User.current() && !this.get('topic.isPrivateMessage');
-  }.property('topic.isPrivateMessage'),
-
   resetExamineDockCache: function() {
     this.docAt = null;
     this.dockedTitle = false;
@@ -380,22 +181,23 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     if (!postView) return;
     var post = postView.get('post');
     if (!post) return;
-    this.set('progressPosition', post.get('index'));
+    this.set('controller.progressPosition', this.get('postStream').indexOf(post) + 1);
   },
 
-  nonUrgentPositionUpdate: Discourse.debounce(function(opts) {
+  throttledPositionUpdate: Discourse.debounce(function() {
     Discourse.ScreenTrack.instance().scrolled();
     var model = this.get('controller.model');
-    if (model) {
-      this.set('controller.currentPost', opts.currentPost);
+    if (model && this.get('nextPositionUpdate')) {
+      this.set('controller.currentPost', this.get('nextPositionUpdate'));
     }
   },500),
 
   scrolled: function(){
-    this.updatePosition(true);
+    this.updatePosition();
   },
 
-  updatePosition: function(userActive) {
+  updatePosition: function() {
+    var topic = this.get('controller.model');
 
     var rows = $('.topic-post.ready');
     if (!rows || rows.length === 0) { return; }
@@ -404,16 +206,23 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     var info = Discourse.Eyeline.analyze(rows);
     if(!info) { return; }
 
-    // top on screen
+    // are we scrolling upwards?
     if(info.top === 0 || info.onScreen[0] === 0 || info.bottom === 0) {
-      this.prevPage($(rows[0]));
+      var $body = $('body');
+      var $elem = $(rows[0]);
+      var distToElement = $body.scrollTop() - $elem.position().top;
+      this.get('postStream').prependMore().then(function() {
+        Em.run.next(function () {
+          $('html, body').scrollTop($elem.position().top + distToElement);
+        });
+      });
     }
 
-    // bottom of screen
+    // are we scrolling down?
     var currentPost;
     if(info.bottom === rows.length-1) {
       currentPost = this.postSeen($(rows[info.bottom]));
-      this.nextPage($(rows[info.bottom]));
+      this.get('postStream').appendMore();
     }
 
     // update dock
@@ -433,16 +242,14 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     }
 
     if (currentForPositionUpdate) {
-      this.nonUrgentPositionUpdate({
-        userActive: userActive,
-        currentPost: currentPost || currentForPositionUpdate
-      });
+      this.set('nextPositionUpdate', currentPost || currentForPositionUpdate);
+      this.throttledPositionUpdate();
     } else {
       console.error("can't update position ");
     }
 
     var offset = window.pageYOffset || $('html').scrollTop();
-    var firstLoaded = this.get('firstPostLoaded');
+    var firstLoaded = topic.get('postStream.firstPostLoaded');
     if (!this.docAt) {
       var title = $('#topic-title');
       if (title && title.length === 1) {
@@ -475,18 +282,17 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
     }
   },
 
-  topicTrackingState: function(){
+  topicTrackingState: function() {
     return Discourse.TopicTrackingState.current();
   }.property(),
 
   browseMoreMessage: function() {
-    var category, opts;
-
-    opts = {
+    var opts = {
       latestLink: "<a href=\"/\">" + (Em.String.i18n("topic.view_latest_topics")) + "</a>"
     };
 
-    category = this.get('controller.content.category');
+
+    var category = this.get('controller.content.category');
     if (category) {
       opts.catLink = Discourse.Utilities.categoryLink(category);
     } else {
@@ -522,27 +328,32 @@ Discourse.TopicView = Discourse.View.extend(Discourse.Scrolling, {
 Discourse.TopicView.reopenClass({
 
   // Scroll to a given post, if in the DOM. Returns whether it was in the DOM or not.
-  scrollTo: function(topicId, postNumber, callback) {
-    // Make sure we're looking at the topic we want to scroll to
-    var existing, header, title, expectedOffset;
-    if (parseInt(topicId, 10) !== parseInt($('#topic').data('topic-id'), 10)) return false;
-    existing = $("#post_" + postNumber);
-    if (existing.length) {
-      if (postNumber === 1) {
-        $('html, body').scrollTop(0);
-      } else {
-        header = $('header');
-        title = $('#topic-title');
-        expectedOffset = title.height() - header.find('.contents').height();
+  jumpToPost: function(topicId, postNumber) {
+    Em.run.scheduleOnce('afterRender', function() {
 
-        if (expectedOffset < 0) {
-          expectedOffset = 0;
+      // Make sure we're looking at the topic we want to scroll to
+      if (topicId !== parseInt($('#topic').data('topic-id'), 10)) { return false; }
+
+      var $post = $("#post_" + postNumber);
+      if ($post.length) {
+        if (postNumber === 1) {
+          $('html, body').scrollTop(0);
+        } else {
+          var header = $('header');
+          var title = $('#topic-title');
+          var expectedOffset = title.height() - header.find('.contents').height();
+
+          if (expectedOffset < 0) {
+            expectedOffset = 0;
+          }
+
+          $('html, body').scrollTop($post.offset().top - (header.outerHeight(true) + expectedOffset));
+
+          var $contents = $('.topic-body .contents', $post);
+          var originalCol = $contents.css('backgroundColor');
+          $contents.css({ backgroundColor: "#ffffcc" }).animate({ backgroundColor: originalCol }, 2500);
         }
-
-        $('html, body').scrollTop(existing.offset().top - (header.outerHeight(true) + expectedOffset));
       }
-      return true;
-    }
-    return false;
+    });
   }
 });
diff --git a/app/controllers/topics_controller.rb b/app/controllers/topics_controller.rb
index 68648c8b079..6fbdbc45bb2 100644
--- a/app/controllers/topics_controller.rb
+++ b/app/controllers/topics_controller.rb
@@ -25,12 +25,11 @@ class TopicsController < ApplicationController
   caches_action :avatar, cache_path: Proc.new {|c| "#{c.params[:post_number]}-#{c.params[:topic_id]}" }
 
   def show
-
     # We'd like to migrate the wordpress feed to another url. This keeps up backwards compatibility with
     # existing installs.
     return wordpress if params[:best].present?
 
-    opts = params.slice(:username_filters, :best_of, :page, :post_number, :posts_before, :posts_after)
+    opts = params.slice(:username_filters, :filter, :page, :post_number)
     begin
       @topic_view = TopicView.new(params[:id] || params[:topic_id], current_user, opts)
     rescue Discourse::NotFound
@@ -67,7 +66,15 @@ class TopicsController < ApplicationController
       wordpress_serializer = TopicViewWordpressSerializer.new(@topic_view, scope: guardian, root: false)
       render_json_dump(wordpress_serializer)
     end
+  end
 
+
+  def posts
+    params.require(:topic_id)
+    params.require(:post_ids)
+
+    @topic_view = TopicView.new(params[:topic_id], current_user, post_ids: params[:post_ids])
+    render_json_dump(TopicViewPostsSerializer.new(@topic_view, scope: guardian, root: false))
   end
 
   def destroy_timings
diff --git a/app/models/site_setting.rb b/app/models/site_setting.rb
index ed46e13fb86..3c997a7d18f 100644
--- a/app/models/site_setting.rb
+++ b/app/models/site_setting.rb
@@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ class SiteSetting < ActiveRecord::Base
   setting(:create_thumbnails, false)
   client_setting(:category_featured_topics, 6)
   setting(:topics_per_page, 30)
-  setting(:posts_per_page, 20)
+  client_setting(:posts_per_page, 20)
   setting(:invite_expiry_days, 14)
   setting(:active_user_rate_limit_secs, 60)
   setting(:previous_visit_timeout_hours, 1)
diff --git a/app/serializers/post_stream_serializer_mixin.rb b/app/serializers/post_stream_serializer_mixin.rb
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..64a717adf05
--- /dev/null
+++ b/app/serializers/post_stream_serializer_mixin.rb
@@ -0,0 +1,32 @@
+module PostStreamSerializerMixin
+
+  def self.included(klass)
+    klass.attributes :post_stream
+  end
+
+  def post_stream
+    { posts: posts,
+      stream: object.filtered_post_ids }
+  end
+
+  def posts
+    return @posts if @posts.present?
+    @posts = []
+    @highest_number_in_posts = 0
+    if object.posts.present?
+      object.posts.each_with_index do |p, idx|
+        if p.user
+          @highest_number_in_posts = p.post_number if p.post_number > @highest_number_in_posts
+          ps = PostSerializer.new(p, scope: scope, root: false)
+          ps.topic_slug = object.topic.slug
+          ps.topic_view = object
+          p.topic = object.topic
+
+          @posts << ps.as_json
+        end
+      end
+    end
+    @posts
+  end
+
+end
diff --git a/app/serializers/topic_view_posts_serializer.rb b/app/serializers/topic_view_posts_serializer.rb
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..0bba907794e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/app/serializers/topic_view_posts_serializer.rb
@@ -0,0 +1,10 @@
+class TopicViewPostsSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
+  include PostStreamSerializerMixin
+
+  attributes :id
+
+  def id
+    object.topic.id
+  end
+
+end
diff --git a/app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb b/app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb
index c5ab99daf13..38dd719b8d9 100644
--- a/app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb
+++ b/app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 require_dependency 'pinned_check'
 
 class TopicViewSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
+  include PostStreamSerializerMixin
 
   # These attributes will be delegated to the topic
   def self.topic_attributes
@@ -15,76 +16,88 @@ class TopicViewSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
      :visible,
      :closed,
      :archived,
-     :moderator_posts_count,
      :has_best_of,
      :archetype,
      :slug,
-     :auto_close_at]
+     :category_id]
   end
 
-  def self.guardian_attributes
-    [:can_moderate, :can_edit, :can_delete, :can_invite_to, :can_move_posts, :can_remove_allowed_users]
-  end
-
-  attributes *topic_attributes
-  attributes *guardian_attributes
-
   attributes :draft,
              :draft_key,
              :draft_sequence,
-             :post_action_visibility,
-             :voted_in_topic,
-             :can_create_post,
-             :can_reply_as_new_topic,
-             :categoryName,
              :starred,
-             :last_read_post_number,
              :posted,
-             :notification_level,
-             :notifications_reason_id,
-             :posts,
-             :at_bottom,
-             :highest_post_number,
              :pinned,
-             :filtered_posts_count
-
-  has_one :created_by, serializer: BasicUserSerializer, embed: :objects
-  has_one :last_poster, serializer: BasicUserSerializer, embed: :objects
-  has_many :allowed_users, serializer: BasicUserSerializer, embed: :objects
-  has_many :allowed_groups, serializer: BasicGroupSerializer, embed: :objects
-
-  has_many :links, serializer: TopicLinkSerializer, embed: :objects
-  has_many :participants, serializer: TopicPostCountSerializer, embed: :objects
-  has_many :suggested_topics, serializer: SuggestedTopicSerializer, embed: :objects
+             :details,
+             :highest_post_number,
+             :last_read_post_number
 
   # Define a delegator for each attribute of the topic we want
+  attributes *topic_attributes
   topic_attributes.each do |ta|
     class_eval %{def #{ta}
       object.topic.#{ta}
     end}
   end
 
-  # Define the guardian attributes
-  guardian_attributes.each do |ga|
-    class_eval %{
-      def #{ga}
-        true
-      end
-
-      def include_#{ga}?
-        scope.#{ga}?(object.topic)
-      end
+  # TODO: Split off into proper object / serializer
+  def details
+    result = {
+      auto_close_at: object.topic.auto_close_at,
+      created_by: BasicUserSerializer.new(object.topic.user, scope: scope, root: false),
+      last_poster: BasicUserSerializer.new(object.topic.last_poster, scope: scope, root: false)
     }
+
+    if object.topic.allowed_users.present?
+      result[:allowed_users] = object.topic.allowed_users.map do |user|
+        BasicUserSerializer.new(user, scope: scope, root: false)
+      end
+    end
+
+    if object.topic.allowed_groups.present?
+      result[:allowed_groups] = object.topic.allowed_groups.map do |ag|
+        BasicGroupSerializer.new(ag, scope: scope, root: false)
+      end
+    end
+
+    if object.post_counts_by_user.present?
+      result[:participants] = object.post_counts_by_user.map do |pc|
+        TopicPostCountSerializer.new({user: object.participants[pc[0]], post_count: pc[1]}, scope: scope, root: false)
+      end
+    end
+
+
+    if object.suggested_topics.try(:topics).present?
+      result[:suggested_topics] = object.suggested_topics.topics.map do |user|
+        SuggestedTopicSerializer.new(user, scope: scope, root: false)
+      end
+    end
+
+    if object.links.present?
+      result[:links] = object.links.map do |user|
+        TopicLinkSerializer.new(user, scope: scope, root: false)
+      end
+    end
+
+    if has_topic_user?
+      result[:notification_level] = object.topic_user.notification_level
+      result[:notifications_reason_id] = object.topic_user.notifications_reason_id
+    end
+
+    result[:can_move_posts] = true if scope.can_move_posts?(object.topic)
+    result[:can_edit] = true if scope.can_edit?(object.topic)
+    result[:can_delete] = true if scope.can_delete?(object.topic)
+    result[:can_remove_allowed_users] = true if scope.can_remove_allowed_users?(object.topic)
+    result[:can_invite_to] = true if scope.can_invite_to?(object.topic)
+    result[:can_create_post] = true if scope.can_create?(Post, object.topic)
+    result[:can_reply_as_new_topic] = true if scope.can_reply_as_new_topic?(object.topic)
+    result
   end
 
   def draft
     object.draft
   end
 
-  def include_allowed_users?
-    object.topic.private_message?
-  end
-
   def draft_key
     object.draft_key
   end
@@ -93,46 +106,6 @@ class TopicViewSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
     object.draft_sequence
   end
 
-  def post_action_visibility
-    object.post_action_visibility
-  end
-
-  def include_post_action_visibility?
-    object.post_action_visibility.present?
-  end
-
-  def filtered_posts_count
-    object.filtered_posts_count
-  end
-
-  def voted_in_topic
-    object.voted_in_topic?
-  end
-
-  def can_reply_as_new_topic
-    true
-  end
-
-  def include_can_reply_as_new_topic?
-    scope.can_reply_as_new_topic?(object.topic)
-  end
-
-  def can_create_post
-    true
-  end
-
-  def include_can_create_post?
-    scope.can_create?(Post, object.topic)
-  end
-
-  def categoryName
-    object.topic.category.name
-  end
-
-  def include_categoryName?
-    object.topic.category.present?
-  end
-
   # Topic user stuff
   def has_topic_user?
     object.topic_user.present?
@@ -143,6 +116,10 @@ class TopicViewSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
   end
   alias_method :include_starred?, :has_topic_user?
 
+  def highest_post_number
+    object.highest_post_number
+  end
+
   def last_read_post_number
     object.topic_user.last_read_post_number
   end
@@ -153,90 +130,9 @@ class TopicViewSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
   end
   alias_method :include_posted?, :has_topic_user?
 
-  def notification_level
-    object.topic_user.notification_level
-  end
-  alias_method :include_notification_level?, :has_topic_user?
-
-  def notifications_reason_id
-    object.topic_user.notifications_reason_id
-  end
-  alias_method :include_notifications_reason_id?, :has_topic_user?
-
-  def created_by
-    object.topic.user
-  end
-
-  def last_poster
-    object.topic.last_poster
-  end
-
-  def allowed_users
-    object.topic.allowed_users
-  end
-
-  def allowed_groups
-    object.topic.allowed_groups
-  end
-
-  def include_links?
-    object.links.present?
-  end
-
-  def participants
-    object.post_counts_by_user.collect {|tuple| {user: object.participants[tuple.first], post_count: tuple[1]}}
-  end
-
-  def include_participants?
-    object.initial_load? && object.post_counts_by_user.present?
-  end
-
-  def suggested_topics
-    object.suggested_topics.topics
-  end
-  def include_suggested_topics?
-    at_bottom && object.suggested_topics.present?
-  end
-
-  # Whether we're at the bottom of a topic (last page)
-  def at_bottom
-    posts.present? && (@highest_number_in_posts == object.highest_post_number)
-  end
-
-  def highest_post_number
-    object.highest_post_number
-  end
-
   def pinned
     PinnedCheck.new(object.topic, object.topic_user).pinned?
   end
 
-  def posts
-    return @posts if @posts.present?
-    @posts = []
-    @highest_number_in_posts = 0
-    if object.posts.present?
-      object.posts.each_with_index do |p, idx|
-        if p.user
-          @highest_number_in_posts = p.post_number if p.post_number > @highest_number_in_posts
-          ps = PostSerializer.new(p, scope: scope, root: false)
-          ps.topic_slug = object.topic.slug
-          ps.topic_view = object
-          p.topic = object.topic
-
-          post_json = ps.as_json
-
-          if object.index_reverse
-            post_json[:index] = object.index_offset - idx
-          else
-            post_json[:index] = object.index_offset + idx + 1
-          end
-
-          @posts << post_json
-        end
-      end
-    end
-    @posts
-  end
 
 end
diff --git a/app/serializers/topic_view_wordpress_serializer.rb b/app/serializers/topic_view_wordpress_serializer.rb
index f442fe47bab..c0cc5c8599a 100644
--- a/app/serializers/topic_view_wordpress_serializer.rb
+++ b/app/serializers/topic_view_wordpress_serializer.rb
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ class TopicViewWordpressSerializer < ApplicationSerializer
   end
 
   def filtered_posts_count
-    object.filtered_posts_count
+    object.filtered_post_ids.size
   end
 
   def participants
diff --git a/config/jshint.yml b/config/jshint.yml
index 74439de04aa..ba24ccd17ec 100644
--- a/config/jshint.yml
+++ b/config/jshint.yml
@@ -92,6 +92,7 @@ predef:
   - find
   - resolvingPromise
   - sinon
+  - controllerFor
 
 browser:  true      # true if the standard browser globals should be predefined
 rhino:    false     # true if the Rhino environment globals should be predefined
diff --git a/config/routes.rb b/config/routes.rb
index d21dce1b47f..556ea294eb4 100644
--- a/config/routes.rb
+++ b/config/routes.rb
@@ -216,6 +216,7 @@ Discourse::Application.routes.draw do
   get 't/:slug/:topic_id.rss' => 'topics#feed', format: :rss, constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
   get 't/:slug/:topic_id' => 'topics#show', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
   get 't/:slug/:topic_id/:post_number' => 'topics#show', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/, post_number: /\d+/}
+  get 't/:topic_id/posts' => 'topics#posts', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
   post 't/:topic_id/timings' => 'topics#timings', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
   post 't/:topic_id/invite' => 'topics#invite', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
   post 't/:topic_id/move-posts' => 'topics#move_posts', constraints: {topic_id: /\d+/}
diff --git a/lib/topic_view.rb b/lib/topic_view.rb
index e33e095e890..48ab15d8a05 100644
--- a/lib/topic_view.rb
+++ b/lib/topic_view.rb
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ require_dependency 'summarize'
 
 class TopicView
 
-  attr_reader :topic, :posts, :index_offset, :index_reverse, :guardian
+  attr_reader :topic, :posts, :guardian, :filtered_posts
   attr_accessor :draft, :draft_key, :draft_sequence
 
   def initialize(topic_id, user=nil, options={})
@@ -20,13 +20,14 @@ class TopicView
     end
 
     guardian.ensure_can_see!(@topic)
+
     @post_number, @page  = options[:post_number], options[:page]
 
     @limit = options[:limit] || SiteSetting.posts_per_page;
 
     @filtered_posts = @topic.posts
     @filtered_posts = @filtered_posts.with_deleted if user.try(:staff?)
-    @filtered_posts = @filtered_posts.best_of if options[:best_of].present?
+    @filtered_posts = @filtered_posts.best_of if options[:filter] == 'best_of'
     @filtered_posts = @filtered_posts.where('posts.post_type <> ?', Post.types[:moderator_action]) if options[:best].present?
 
     if options[:username_filters].present?
@@ -78,10 +79,6 @@ class TopicView
     @topic.title
   end
 
-  def filtered_posts_count
-    @filtered_posts_count ||= @filtered_posts.count
-  end
-
   def summary
     return nil if posts.blank?
     Summarize.new(posts.first.cooked).summary
@@ -94,11 +91,8 @@ class TopicView
 
   def filter_posts(opts = {})
     return filter_posts_near(opts[:post_number].to_i) if opts[:post_number].present?
-    return filter_posts_before(opts[:posts_before].to_i) if opts[:posts_before].present?
-    return filter_posts_after(opts[:posts_after].to_i) if opts[:posts_after].present?
-    if opts[:best].present?
-      return filter_best(opts[:best], opts)
-    end
+    return filter_posts_by_ids(opts[:post_ids]) if opts[:post_ids].present?
+    return filter_best(opts[:best], opts) if opts[:best].present?
 
     filter_posts_paged(opts[:page].to_i)
   end
@@ -152,36 +146,8 @@ class TopicView
     filter_posts_in_range(min, max)
   end
 
-  # Filter to all posts before a particular post number
-  def filter_posts_before(post_number)
-    @initial_load = false
-
-    sort_order = sort_order_for_post_number(post_number)
-    return nil unless sort_order
-
-    # Find posts before the `sort_order`
-    @posts = @filtered_posts.order('sort_order desc').where("sort_order < ?", sort_order)
-    @index_offset = @posts.count
-    @index_reverse = true
-
-    @posts = @posts.includes(:reply_to_user).includes(:topic).joins(:user).limit(@limit)
-  end
-
-  # Filter to all posts after a particular post number
-  def filter_posts_after(post_number)
-    @initial_load = false
-
-    sort_order = sort_order_for_post_number(post_number)
-    return nil unless sort_order
-
-    @index_offset = @filtered_posts.where("sort_order <= ?", sort_order).count
-    @posts = @filtered_posts.order('sort_order').where("sort_order > ?", sort_order)
-    @posts = @posts.includes(:reply_to_user).includes(:topic).joins(:user).limit(@limit)
-  end
 
   def filter_best(max, opts={})
-    @index_offset = 0
-
     if opts[:min_replies] && @topic.posts_count < opts[:min_replies] + 1
       @posts = []
       return
@@ -189,8 +155,10 @@ class TopicView
 
     @posts = @filtered_posts.order('percent_rank asc, sort_order asc')
       .where("post_number > 1")
+
     @posts = @posts.includes(:reply_to_user).includes(:topic).joins(:user).limit(max)
 
+
     min_trust_level = opts[:min_trust_level]
     if min_trust_level && min_trust_level > 0
       @posts = @posts.where('COALESCE(users.trust_level,0) >= ?', min_trust_level)
@@ -233,27 +201,6 @@ class TopicView
     @all_post_actions ||= PostAction.counts_for(posts, @user)
   end
 
-  def voted_in_topic?
-    return false
-
-    # all post_actions is not the way to do this, cut down on the query, roll it up into topic if we need it
-
-    @voted_in_topic ||= begin
-      return false unless all_post_actions.present?
-      all_post_actions.values.flatten.map {|ac| ac.keys}.flatten.include?(PostActionType.types[:vote])
-    end
-  end
-
-  def post_action_visibility
-    @post_action_visibility ||= begin
-      result = []
-      PostActionType.types.each do |k, v|
-        result << v if guardian.can_see_post_actors?(@topic, v)
-      end
-      result
-    end
-  end
-
   def links
     @links ||= TopicLink.topic_summary(guardian, @topic.id)
   end
@@ -315,6 +262,16 @@ class TopicView
 
   private
 
+  def filter_posts_by_ids(post_ids)
+    # TODO: Sort might be off
+    @posts = Post.where(id: post_ids)
+                 .includes(:user)
+                 .includes(:reply_to_user)
+                 .order('sort_order')
+    @posts = @posts.with_deleted if @user.try(:staff?)
+    @posts
+  end
+
   def filter_posts_in_range(min, max)
     post_count = (filtered_post_ids.length - 1)
 
@@ -324,15 +281,7 @@ class TopicView
 
     min = [[min, max].min, 0].max
 
-    @index_offset = min
-
-    # TODO: Sort might be off
-    @posts = Post.where(id: filtered_post_ids[min..max])
-                 .includes(:user)
-                 .includes(:reply_to_user)
-                 .order('sort_order')
-    @posts = @posts.with_deleted if @user.try(:staff?)
-
+    @posts = filter_posts_by_ids(filtered_post_ids[min..max])
     @posts
   end
 
diff --git a/spec/components/topic_view_spec.rb b/spec/components/topic_view_spec.rb
index 095cd6ea182..13526c3cc20 100644
--- a/spec/components/topic_view_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/components/topic_view_spec.rb
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ describe TopicView do
       # should not get the status post
       best = TopicView.new(topic.id, nil, best: 99)
       best.posts.count.should == 2
-      best.filtered_posts_count.should == 3
+      best.filtered_post_ids.size.should == 3
       best.current_post_ids.should =~ [p2.id, p3.id]
 
       # should get no results for trust level too low
@@ -145,12 +145,6 @@ describe TopicView do
       end
     end
 
-    context '.post_action_visibility' do
-      it "is allows users to see likes" do
-        topic_view.post_action_visibility.include?(PostActionType.types[:like]).should be_true
-      end
-    end
-
     context '.read?' do
       it 'is unread with no logged in user' do
         TopicView.new(topic.id).read?(1).should be_false
@@ -216,36 +210,6 @@ describe TopicView do
       end
     end
 
-    describe "filter_posts_after" do
-      it "returns undeleted posts after a post" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_after(p1.post_number).map(&:id).should == [p2.id, p3.id, p5.id]
-        topic_view.should_not be_initial_load
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 1
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_false
-      end
-
-      it "clips to the end boundary" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_after(p2.post_number).should == [p3, p5]
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 2
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_false
-      end
-
-      it "returns nothing after the last post" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_after(p5.post_number).should be_blank
-      end
-
-      it "returns nothing after an invalid post number" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_after(1000).should be_blank
-      end
-
-      it "returns deleted posts to an admin" do
-        coding_horror.admin = true
-        topic_view.filter_posts_after(p1.post_number).should == [p2, p3, p4]
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 1
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_false
-      end
-    end
-
     describe '#filter_posts_paged' do
       before { SiteSetting.stubs(:posts_per_page).returns(1) }
 
@@ -257,37 +221,6 @@ describe TopicView do
       end
     end
 
-    describe "filter_posts_before" do
-      it "returns undeleted posts before a post" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(p5.post_number).should == [p3, p2, p1]
-        topic_view.should_not be_initial_load
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 3
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_true
-      end
-
-      it "clips to the beginning boundary" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(p3.post_number).should == [p2, p1]
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 2
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_true
-      end
-
-      it "returns nothing before the first post" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(p1.post_number).should be_blank
-      end
-
-      it "returns nothing before an invalid post number" do
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(-10).should be_blank
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(1000).should be_blank
-      end
-
-      it "returns deleted posts to an admin" do
-        coding_horror.admin = true
-        topic_view.filter_posts_before(p5.post_number).should == [p4, p3, p2]
-        topic_view.index_offset.should == 4
-        topic_view.index_reverse.should be_true
-      end
-    end
-
     describe "filter_posts_near" do
 
       def topic_view_near(post)
@@ -297,30 +230,22 @@ describe TopicView do
       it "snaps to the lower boundary" do
         near_view = topic_view_near(p1)
         near_view.posts.should == [p1, p2, p3]
-        near_view.index_offset.should == 0
-        near_view.index_reverse.should be_false
       end
 
       it "snaps to the upper boundary" do
         near_view = topic_view_near(p5)
         near_view.posts.should == [p2, p3, p5]
-        near_view.index_offset.should == 1
-        near_view.index_reverse.should be_false
       end
 
       it "returns the posts in the middle" do
         near_view = topic_view_near(p2)
         near_view.posts.should == [p1, p2, p3]
-        near_view.index_offset.should == 0
-        near_view.index_reverse.should be_false
       end
 
       it "returns deleted posts to an admin" do
         coding_horror.admin = true
         near_view = topic_view_near(p3)
         near_view.posts.should == [p2, p3, p4]
-        near_view.index_offset.should == 1
-        near_view.index_reverse.should be_false
       end
 
       context "when 'posts per page' exceeds the number of posts" do
@@ -329,8 +254,6 @@ describe TopicView do
         it 'returns all the posts' do
           near_view = topic_view_near(p5)
           near_view.posts.should == [p1, p2, p3, p5]
-          near_view.index_offset.should == 0
-          near_view.index_reverse.should be_false
         end
       end
     end
diff --git a/spec/controllers/topics_controller_spec.rb b/spec/controllers/topics_controller_spec.rb
index ecaf76f6d8d..a0578198a13 100644
--- a/spec/controllers/topics_controller_spec.rb
+++ b/spec/controllers/topics_controller_spec.rb
@@ -517,17 +517,6 @@ describe TopicsController do
         TopicView.any_instance.expects(:filter_posts_near).with(p2.post_number)
         xhr :get, :show, topic_id: topic.id, slug: topic.slug, post_number: p2.post_number
       end
-
-      it 'delegates a posts_after param to TopicView#filter_posts_after' do
-        TopicView.any_instance.expects(:filter_posts_after).with(p1.post_number)
-        xhr :get, :show, topic_id: topic.id, slug: topic.slug, posts_after: p1.post_number
-      end
-
-      it 'delegates a posts_before param to TopicView#filter_posts_before' do
-        TopicView.any_instance.expects(:filter_posts_before).with(p2.post_number)
-        xhr :get, :show, topic_id: topic.id, slug: topic.slug, posts_before: p2.post_number
-      end
-
     end
 
     context "when 'login required' site setting has been enabled" do
diff --git a/sublime-project b/sublime-project
index 5c30c111d52..ff65ce5a7c5 100644
--- a/sublime-project
+++ b/sublime-project
@@ -15,7 +15,9 @@
     { "path": "script" },
     { "path": "cookbooks" },
     { "path": "spec" },
-    { "path": "test" }
+    { "path": "test",
+      "folder_exclude_patterns": ["fixtures"]
+    }
   ],
   "settings":
   {
diff --git a/test/javascripts/controllers/topic_controller_test.js b/test/javascripts/controllers/topic_controller_test.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..950b861f1b0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/test/javascripts/controllers/topic_controller_test.js
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+
+var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({
+  title: "Qunit Test Topic",
+  participants: [
+    {id: 1234,
+     post_count: 4,
+     username: "eviltrout"}
+  ]
+});
+
+
+module("Discourse.TopicController", {
+  setup: function() {
+    this.topicController = controllerFor('topic', topic);
+  }
+});
+
+test("editingMode", function() {
+  var topicController = this.topicController;
+
+  ok(!topicController.get('editingTopic'), "we are not editing by default");
+
+  topicController.set('model.details.can_edit', false);
+  topicController.editTopic();
+  ok(!topicController.get('editingTopic'), "calling editTopic doesn't enable editing unless the user can edit");
+
+  topicController.set('model.details.can_edit', true);
+  topicController.editTopic();
+  ok(topicController.get('editingTopic'), "calling editTopic enables editing if the user can edit");
+  equal(topicController.get('newTitle'), topic.get('title'));
+  equal(topicController.get('newCategoryId'), topic.get('category_id'));
+
+  topicController.cancelEditingTopic();
+  ok(!topicController.get('editingTopic'), "cancelling edit mode reverts the property value");
+});
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/test/javascripts/fixtures/topic_fixtures.js b/test/javascripts/fixtures/topic_fixtures.js
index bc962ca7df2..919891ab5ed 100644
--- a/test/javascripts/fixtures/topic_fixtures.js
+++ b/test/javascripts/fixtures/topic_fixtures.js
@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
 /*jshint maxlen:10000000 */
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support Chinese?","clicks":9}],"cooked":"<p>Is it a coincidence that the strings file is 1337 lines long? :D</p>","read":false,"username":"shade","name":"Shade","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":7,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/02c3f1806f6962f56168c7bd9f8924b8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1808,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":1,"index":4},{"id":3651,"post_number":5,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:02:07-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:05:42-05:00","reply_count":2,"reply_to_post_number":3,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":24,"incoming_link_count":6,"reads":263,"score":153.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4232922/why-do-people-use-plain-english-as-translation-placeholders","internal":false,"reflection":false,"clicks":45},{"url":"/users/codinghorror","internal":true,"reflection":false,"clicks":5}],"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"3\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/51d623f33f8b83095db84ff35e15dbe8.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  codinghorror\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>So you could replace that lookup table with the \"de\" one to get German.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>The problem I see here is that  this file is likely two grow and change massively over the next couple months, and tracking these changes in order to keep a localized file up to date is going to be a <em>bitch</em>. </p>\n\n<p>I wonder where there is a tool that can compare two yml structures and point out which nodes are missing? That would help keep track of new strings.</p>\n\n<p>Re keeping track of <em>changed</em> strings, <a href=\"/users/codinghorror\" class=\"mention\">@codinghorror</a> I found this very interesting: <a href=\"http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4232922/why-do-people-use-plain-english-as-translation-placeholders\">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4232922/why-do-people-use-plain-english-as-translation-placeholders</a> if plain English placeholders were used, any change in strings would lead to a <em>new</em> node in the yml file, making keeping the translation up to date easier. Maybe worth thinking about in the future.</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":5},{"id":3654,"post_number":6,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:05:39-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:05:39-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":5,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":19,"incoming_link_count":1,"reads":237,"score":73.35,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"https://github.com/SlexAxton/messageformat.js","internal":false,"reflection":false,"clicks":34},{"url":"https://github.com/SlexAxton","internal":false,"reflection":false,"clicks":7}],"cooked":"<p>Yes, I really like the concept of fuzzy matching for localization, perhaps you can chase up <a href=\"https://github.com/SlexAxton\">alex sexton</a> he was meaning to upload a localization tool for this kind of stuff. </p>\n\n<p>Also, I am a big fan of <a href=\"https://github.com/SlexAxton/messageformat.js\">ICU message format</a>, but it is not the \"Rails way (tm)\". </p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":6},{"id":3655,"post_number":7,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:08:17-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:02-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":6,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":17,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":239,"score":68.65,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"http://translate.wordpress.org/projects/bbpress/dev","internal":false,"reflection":false,"clicks":13}],"cooked":"<p>Looks interesting, I'll take a peek.</p>\n\n<p>As said on dev, the best tool I can see in terms of giving translators a proper interface <em>and</em> quality control would be something like <a href=\"http://translate.wordpress.org/projects/bbpress/dev\">GlotPress</a>. It's based on the PO messages format (is that somehow related to ICU?) but looks pretty great.</p>\n\n<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"6\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>fuzzy matching for localization</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>I'm not familiar with the term in this context, you mean keeping the English version in the code base (instead of a generic code like <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> ?)</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":7},{"id":3658,"post_number":8,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":7,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":12,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":216,"score":63.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"http://meta.discourse.org/t/what-i-love-about-wordpress-plugins/5697","internal":true,"reflection":true,"title":"What I love about WordPress plugins","clicks":7}],"cooked":"<p>ICU Message format is basically Gettext on steroids, Gettext has been around for so many years and actually works pretty well, being super prevalent in Linux. </p>\n\n<p>Trouble is you need a fuzzy matcher for translators if you are going to store stuff like <code>mf.compile( 'This is a message.' )</code> in source, one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":8},{"id":3660,"post_number":9,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:14:12-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:18:09-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":8,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":11,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":216,"score":63.75,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"8\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>Yeah, that's why I've always been a friend of <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> placeholders, until I asked the SO question linked above. The accepted answer makes a good argument against those placeholders: you <em>want</em> translations to break even on small changes in the English original because the translations will probably need to reflect the change, too.  Maybe that's not the case right now as new stuff is being checked in pretty much every couple of hours, but in the long run, it'll be overwhelmingly true.</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":9},{"id":3667,"post_number":10,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":9,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":206,"score":61.6,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Tim Stone","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Hmm...You could theoretically also build something into the development process that would monitor changes to the English locale file and make a translator-friendly list of changes between versions.</p>","read":false,"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3981cd271c302f5cba628c6b6d2b32ee.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":9,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":10},{"id":3673,"post_number":11,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":10,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":202,"score":60.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","reply_to_user":{"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2,"index":11},{"id":3675,"post_number":12,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:33:38-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:34:39-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":11,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":9,"incoming_link_count":1,"reads":203,"score":66.05,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"11\" data-topic=\"280\" data-full=\"true\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>As said, I'd look into whether WP's tools can't be reused for this with some tweaking. 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It's based on the PO messages format (is that somehow related to ICU?) but looks pretty great.</p>\n\n<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"6\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>fuzzy matching for localization</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>I'm not familiar with the term in this context, you mean keeping the English version in the code base (instead of a generic code like <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> ?)</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","user_title":null,"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2},{"id":3658,"post_number":8,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:12:22-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":7,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":12,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":222,"score":65.0,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"link_counts":[{"url":"http://meta.discourse.org/t/what-i-love-about-wordpress-plugins/5697","internal":true,"reflection":true,"title":"What I love about WordPress plugins","clicks":7}],"cooked":"<p>ICU Message format is basically Gettext on steroids, Gettext has been around for so many years and actually works pretty well, being super prevalent in Linux. </p>\n\n<p>Trouble is you need a fuzzy matcher for translators if you are going to store stuff like <code>mf.compile( 'This is a message.' )</code> in source, one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","user_title":"Chief Waffle","reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2},{"id":3660,"post_number":9,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:14:12-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:18:09-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":8,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":11,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":221,"score":64.75,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"8\" data-topic=\"280\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>one letter change and all your translators need to validate it.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>Yeah, that's why I've always been a friend of <code>message_error_nametooshort</code> placeholders, until I asked the SO question linked above. 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Maybe that's not the case right now as new stuff is being checked in pretty much every couple of hours, but in the long run, it'll be overwhelmingly true.</p>","read":false,"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser","user_title":null,"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/100a6c42a31a56e882475725d65537f8.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":7,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2},{"id":3667,"post_number":10,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:25:16-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":9,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":211,"score":62.6,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Tim Stone","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Hmm...You could theoretically also build something into the development process that would monitor changes to the English locale file and make a translator-friendly list of changes between versions.</p>","read":false,"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone","user_title":null,"reply_to_user":{"username":"pekka","name":"Pekka Gaiser"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":false,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3981cd271c302f5cba628c6b6d2b32ee.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":9,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2},{"id":3673,"post_number":11,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:30:21-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":10,"quote_count":0,"avg_time":8,"incoming_link_count":0,"reads":207,"score":61.8,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Sam Saffron","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</p>","read":false,"username":"sam","name":"Sam Saffron","user_title":"Chief Waffle","reply_to_user":{"username":"tms","name":"Tim Stone"},"actions_summary":[{"id":2,"count":1,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":3,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":4,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":5,"count":0,"hidden":true,"can_act":null},{"id":6,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":7,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null},{"id":8,"count":0,"hidden":false,"can_act":null}],"moderator":false,"staff":true,"avatar_template":"https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s={size}&r=pg&d=identicon","user_id":1,"hidden":false,"hidden_reason_id":null,"deleted_at":null,"trust_level":2},{"id":3675,"post_number":12,"post_type":1,"created_at":"2013-02-07T09:33:38-05:00","updated_at":"2013-02-07T09:34:39-05:00","reply_count":1,"reply_to_post_number":11,"quote_count":1,"avg_time":9,"incoming_link_count":1,"reads":206,"score":66.65,"yours":false,"topic_slug":"internationalization-localization","topic_id":280,"display_username":"Pekka Gaiser","version":1,"can_edit":null,"can_delete":null,"can_recover":false,"cooked":"<p></p><aside class=\"quote\" data-post=\"11\" data-topic=\"280\" data-full=\"true\"><div class=\"title\">\n    <div class=\"quote-controls\"></div>\n  <img width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3dcae8378d46c244172a115c28ca49ce.png?s=40&amp;r=pg&amp;d=identicon\" class=\"avatar \" title=\"\">\n  sam\n  said:\n  </div>\n  <blockquote>Yeah, totally, also we could build tools for dev that make introducing string less annoying and make it possible to garbage collect old unused strings, I hate trudging through that file.</blockquote>\n</aside><p></p>\n\n<p>As said, I'd look into whether WP's tools can't be reused for this with some tweaking. 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\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/test/javascripts/helpers/assertions.js b/test/javascripts/helpers/assertions.js
index 3740920a208..8ca05157359 100644
--- a/test/javascripts/helpers/assertions.js
+++ b/test/javascripts/helpers/assertions.js
@@ -1,7 +1,11 @@
 // Test helpers
 var resolvingPromise = Ember.Deferred.promise(function (p) {
   p.resolve();
-})
+});
+
+var resolvingPromiseWith = function(result) {
+  return Ember.Deferred.promise(function (p) { p.resolve(result); });
+};
 
 function exists(selector) {
   return !!count(selector);
@@ -11,22 +15,14 @@ function count(selector) {
   return find(selector).length;
 }
 
-function objBlank(obj) {
-  if (obj === undefined) return true;
-
-  switch (typeof obj) {
-  case "string":
-    return obj.trim().length === 0;
-  case "object":
-    return $.isEmptyObject(obj);
-  }
-  return false;
-}
-
 function present(obj, text) {
-  equal(objBlank(obj), false, text);
+  ok(!Ember.isEmpty(obj), text);
 }
 
 function blank(obj, text) {
-  equal(objBlank(obj), true, text);
+  ok(Ember.isEmpty(obj), text);
+}
+
+function containsInstance(collection, klass, text) {
+  ok(klass.detectInstance(_.first(collection)), text);
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/test/javascripts/helpers/qunit_helpers.js b/test/javascripts/helpers/qunit_helpers.js
index 3a08c29fd5f..033a9580fd4 100644
--- a/test/javascripts/helpers/qunit_helpers.js
+++ b/test/javascripts/helpers/qunit_helpers.js
@@ -12,4 +12,10 @@ function integration(name) {
       Discourse.ScrollingDOMMethods.unbindOnScroll.restore();
     }
   });
+}
+
+function controllerFor(controller, model) {
+  var controller = Discourse.__container__.lookup('controller:' + controller);
+  if (model) { controller.set('model', model ); }
+  return controller;
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/test/javascripts/jshint_all.js.erb b/test/javascripts/jshint_all.js.erb
index 88910e92a7d..afdeb4bc8c5 100644
--- a/test/javascripts/jshint_all.js.erb
+++ b/test/javascripts/jshint_all.js.erb
@@ -121,7 +121,11 @@ var jsHintOpts = {
     "start",
     "_",
     "console",
-    "alert"],
+    "alert",
+    "controllerFor",
+    "containsInstance",
+    "deepEqual",
+    "resolvingPromiseWith"],
   "node" : false,
   "browser" : true,
   "boss" : true,
diff --git a/test/javascripts/models/post_stream_test.js b/test/javascripts/models/post_stream_test.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..111ef8fa0da
--- /dev/null
+++ b/test/javascripts/models/post_stream_test.js
@@ -0,0 +1,324 @@
+module("Discourse.PostStream");
+
+var buildStream = function(id, stream) {
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: id});
+  var ps = topic.get('postStream');
+  if (stream) {
+    ps.set('stream', stream);
+  }
+  return ps;
+};
+
+var participant = {username: 'eviltrout'};
+
+test('defaults', function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  blank(postStream.get('posts'), "there are no posts in a stream by default");
+  ok(!postStream.get('loaded'), "it has never loaded");
+  present(postStream.get('topic'));
+
+});
+
+test('appending posts', function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(4567, [1, 3, 4]);
+
+  ok(!postStream.get('hasPosts'), "there are no posts by default");
+  ok(!postStream.get('firstPostLoaded'), "the first post is not loaded");
+  ok(!postStream.get('lastPostLoaded'), "the last post is not loaded");
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 0, "it has no posts initially");
+
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 2, post_number: 2}));
+  ok(!postStream.get('firstPostLoaded'), "the first post is still not loaded");
+  ok(!postStream.get('lastPostLoaded'), "the last post is still not loaded");
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 1, "it has one post in the stream");
+
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 4, post_number: 4}));
+  ok(!postStream.get('firstPostLoaded'), "the first post is still loaded");
+  ok(postStream.get('lastPostLoaded'), "the last post is now loaded");
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 2, "it has two posts in the stream");
+
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 4, post_number: 4}));
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 2, "it will not add the same post with id twice");
+
+  var stagedPost = Discourse.Post.create({raw: 'incomplete post'});
+  postStream.appendPost(stagedPost);
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 3, "it can handle posts without ids");
+  postStream.appendPost(stagedPost);
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 3, "it won't add the same post without an id twice");
+
+
+  // change the stream
+  postStream.set('stream', [1, 2, 4]);
+  ok(!postStream.get('firstPostLoaded'), "the first post no longer loaded since the stream changed.");
+  ok(postStream.get('lastPostLoaded'), "the last post is still the last post in the new stream");
+});
+
+
+test('updateFromJson', function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1231);
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({
+    posts: [{id: 1}],
+    stream: [1],
+    extra_property: 12
+  });
+
+  equal(postStream.get('posts.length'), 1, 'it loaded the posts');
+  containsInstance(postStream.get('posts'), Discourse.Post);
+
+  equal(postStream.get('extra_property'), 12);
+});
+
+test("cancelFilter", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1235);
+
+  this.stub(postStream, "refresh");
+
+  postStream.set('bestOf', true);
+  postStream.cancelFilter();
+  ok(!postStream.get('bestOf'), "best of is cancelled");
+
+  postStream.toggleParticipant(participant);
+  postStream.cancelFilter();
+  blank(postStream.get('userFilters'), "cancelling the filters clears the userFilters");
+});
+
+test("toggleParticipant", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1236);
+  this.stub(postStream, "refresh");
+
+  equal(postStream.get('userFilters.length'), 0, "by default no participants are toggled");
+
+  postStream.toggleParticipant(participant.username);
+  ok(postStream.get('userFilters').contains('eviltrout'), 'eviltrout is in the filters');
+
+  postStream.toggleParticipant(participant.username);
+  blank(postStream.get('userFilters'), "toggling the participant again removes them");
+});
+
+test("streamFilters", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1237);
+  this.stub(postStream, "refresh");
+
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('streamFilters'), {}, "there are no postFilters by default");
+  ok(postStream.get('hasNoFilters'), "there are no filters by default");
+  blank(postStream.get("filterDesc"), "there is no description of the filter");
+
+  postStream.set('bestOf', true);
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('streamFilters'), {filter: "best_of"}, "postFilters contains the bestOf flag");
+  ok(!postStream.get('hasNoFilters'), "now there are filters present");
+  present(postStream.get("filterDesc"), "there is a description of the filter");
+
+  postStream.toggleParticipant(participant.username);
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('streamFilters'), {
+    filter: "best_of",
+    username_filters: ['eviltrout']
+  }, "streamFilters contains the username we filtered");
+});
+
+test("loading", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  ok(!postStream.get('loading'), "we're not loading by default");
+
+  postStream.set('loadingAbove', true);
+  ok(postStream.get('loading'), "we're loading if loading above");
+
+  postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  postStream.set('loadingBelow', true);
+  ok(postStream.get('loading'), "we're loading if loading below");
+
+  postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  postStream.set('loadingFilter', true);
+  ok(postStream.get('loading'), "we're loading if loading a filter");
+});
+
+test("nextWindow", function() {
+  Discourse.SiteSettings.posts_per_page = 5;
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234, [1,2,3,5,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,16]);
+
+  blank(postStream.get('nextWindow'), 'With no posts loaded, the window is blank');
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 1}, {id: 2}] });
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('nextWindow'), [3,5,8,9,10],
+            "If we've loaded the first 2 posts, the window should be the 5 after that");
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 13}] });
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('nextWindow'), [14, 15, 16], "Boundary check: stop at the end.");
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 16}] });
+  blank(postStream.get('nextWindow'), "Once we've seen everything there's nothing to load.");
+});
+
+test("previousWindow", function() {
+  Discourse.SiteSettings.posts_per_page = 5;
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234, [1,2,3,5,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,16]);
+
+  blank(postStream.get('previousWindow'), 'With no posts loaded, the window is blank');
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 11}, {id: 13}] });
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('previousWindow'), [3, 5, 8, 9, 10],
+            "If we've loaded in the middle, it's the previous 5 posts");
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 3}] });
+  deepEqual(postStream.get('previousWindow'), [1, 2], "Boundary check: stop at the beginning.");
+
+  postStream.updateFromJson({ posts: [{id: 1}] });
+  blank(postStream.get('previousWindow'), "Once we've seen everything there's nothing to load.");
+});
+
+test("storePost", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+
+  var post = Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 1, raw: 'initial value'});
+  var stored = postStream.storePost(post);
+  equal(post, stored, "it returns the post it stored");
+  equal(post.get('topic'), postStream.get('topic'), "it creates the topic reference properly");
+
+  var dupePost = Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 1, raw: 'updated value'});
+  var storedDupe = postStream.storePost(dupePost);
+  equal(storedDupe, post, "it returns the previously stored post instead to avoid dupes");
+  equal(storedDupe.get('raw'), 'updated value', 'it updates the previously stored post');
+
+  var postWithoutId = Discourse.Post.create({raw: 'hello world'});
+  stored = postStream.storePost(postWithoutId);
+  equal(stored, postWithoutId, "it returns the same post back");
+  equal(postStream.get('postIdentityMap.length'), 1, "it does not add a new entry into the identity map");
+
+});
+
+test("identity map", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  var p1 = postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 1}));
+  var p3 = postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 3, post_number: 4}));
+
+  equal(postStream.findLoadedPost(1), p1, "it can return cached posts by id");
+  blank(postStream.findLoadedPost(4), "it can't find uncached posts");
+
+  deepEqual(postStream.listUnloadedIds([10, 11, 12]), [10, 11, 12], "it returns a list of all unloaded ids");
+  blank(postStream.listUnloadedIds([1, 3]), "if we have loaded all posts it's blank");
+  deepEqual(postStream.listUnloadedIds([1, 2, 3, 4]), [2, 4], "it only returns unloaded posts");
+});
+
+asyncTest("loadIntoIdentityMap with no data", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  expect(1);
+
+  this.stub(Discourse, "ajax");
+  postStream.loadIntoIdentityMap([]).then(function() {
+    ok(!Discourse.ajax.calledOnce, "an empty array returned a promise yet performed no ajax request");
+    start();
+  });
+});
+
+asyncTest("loadIntoIdentityMap with post ids", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(1234);
+  expect(1);
+
+  this.stub(Discourse, "ajax").returns(resolvingPromiseWith({
+    post_stream: {
+      posts: [{id: 10, post_number: 10}]
+    }
+  }));
+
+  postStream.loadIntoIdentityMap([10]).then(function() {
+    present(postStream.findLoadedPost(10), "it adds the returned post to the store");
+    start();
+  });
+});
+
+
+test("staging and undoing a new post", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(10101, [1]);
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 1}));
+
+  var user = Discourse.User.create({username: 'eviltrout', name: 'eviltrout', id: 321});
+  var stagedPost = Discourse.Post.create({ raw: 'hello world this is my new post' });
+
+  var topic = postStream.get('topic');
+  topic.setProperties({
+    posts_count: 1,
+    highest_post_number: 1
+  });
+
+  // Stage the new post in the stream
+  postStream.stagePost(stagedPost, user);
+  equal(topic.get('highest_post_number'), 2, "it updates the highest_post_number");
+  ok(postStream.get('loading'), "it is loading while the post is being staged");
+
+  equal(topic.get('posts_count'), 2, "it increases the post count");
+  present(topic.get('last_posted_at'), "it updates last_posted_at");
+  equal(topic.get('details.last_poster'), user, "it changes the last poster");
+
+  equal(stagedPost.get('topic'), topic, "it assigns the topic reference");
+  equal(stagedPost.get('post_number'), 2, "it is assigned the probable post_number");
+  equal(postStream.get('filteredPostsCount'), 1, "it retains the filteredPostsCount");
+  present(stagedPost.get('created_at'), "it is assigned a created date");
+  ok(postStream.get('posts').contains(stagedPost), "the post is added to the stream");
+  blank(stagedPost.get('id'), "the post has no id yet");
+
+  // Undoing a created post (there was an error)
+  postStream.undoPost(stagedPost);
+
+  ok(!postStream.get('loading'), "it is no longer loading");
+  equal(topic.get('highest_post_number'), 1, "it reverts the highest_post_number");
+  equal(topic.get('posts_count'), 1, "it reverts the post count");
+  equal(postStream.get('filteredPostsCount'), 1, "it retains the filteredPostsCount");
+  ok(!postStream.get('posts').contains(stagedPost), "the post is removed from the stream");
+});
+
+test("staging and committing a post", function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(10101, [1]);
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 1}));
+  var user = Discourse.User.create({username: 'eviltrout', name: 'eviltrout', id: 321});
+  var stagedPost = Discourse.Post.create({ raw: 'hello world this is my new post' });
+
+  var topic = postStream.get('topic');
+  topic.set('posts_count', 1);
+
+  // Stage the new post in the stream
+  postStream.stagePost(stagedPost, user);
+  ok(postStream.get('loading'), "it is loading while the post is being staged");
+  stagedPost.setProperties({ id: 1234, raw: "different raw value" });
+  equal(postStream.get('filteredPostsCount'), 1, "it retains the filteredPostsCount");
+
+  postStream.commitPost(stagedPost);
+  ok(postStream.get('posts').contains(stagedPost), "the post is still in the stream");
+  ok(!postStream.get('loading'), "it is no longer loading");
+  equal(postStream.get('filteredPostsCount'), 2, "it increases the filteredPostsCount");
+
+  var found = postStream.findLoadedPost(stagedPost.get('id'));
+  present(found, "the post is in the identity map");
+  ok(postStream.indexOf(stagedPost) > -1, "the post is in the stream");
+  equal(found.get('raw'), 'different raw value', 'it also updated the value in the stream');
+
+});
+
+
+test('triggerNewPostInStream', function() {
+  var postStream = buildStream(225566);
+
+  this.stub(postStream, 'appendMore');
+  this.stub(postStream, 'refresh');
+
+  postStream.triggerNewPostInStream(null);
+  ok(!postStream.appendMore.calledOnce, "asking for a null id does nothing");
+
+  postStream.toggleBestOf();
+  postStream.triggerNewPostInStream(1);
+  ok(!postStream.appendMore.calledOnce, "it will not trigger when bestOf is active");
+
+  postStream.cancelFilter();
+  postStream.toggleParticipant('eviltrout');
+  postStream.triggerNewPostInStream(1);
+  ok(!postStream.appendMore.calledOnce, "it will not trigger when a participant filter is active");
+
+  postStream.cancelFilter();
+  postStream.triggerNewPostInStream(1);
+  ok(!postStream.appendMore.calledOnce, "it wont't delegate to appendMore because the last post is not loaded");
+
+  postStream.cancelFilter();
+  postStream.appendPost(Discourse.Post.create({id: 1, post_number: 2}));
+  postStream.triggerNewPostInStream(2);
+  ok(postStream.appendMore.calledOnce, "delegates to appendMore because the last post is loaded");
+});
+
diff --git a/test/javascripts/models/post_test.js b/test/javascripts/models/post_test.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..989928bb0fd
--- /dev/null
+++ b/test/javascripts/models/post_test.js
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+module("Discourse.Post");
+
+test('new_user', function() {
+  var post = Discourse.Post.create({trust_level: 0});
+  ok(post.get('new_user'), "post is from a new user");
+
+  post.set('trust_level', 1);
+  ok(!post.get('new_user'), "post is no longer from a new user");
+});
+
+test('firstPost', function() {
+  var post = Discourse.Post.create({post_number: 1});
+  ok(post.get('firstPost'), "it's the first post");
+
+  post.set('post_number', 10);
+  ok(!post.get('firstPost'), "post is no longer the first post");
+});
+
+
+test('updateFromPost', function() {
+  var post = Discourse.Post.create({
+    post_number: 1,
+    raw: 'hello world'
+  });
+
+  post.updateFromPost(Discourse.Post.create({
+    raw: 'different raw',
+    wat: function() { return 123; }
+  }));
+
+  equal(post.get('raw'), "different raw", "raw field updated");
+});
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diff --git a/test/javascripts/models/topic_details_test.js b/test/javascripts/models/topic_details_test.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..7ca709f4004
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+++ b/test/javascripts/models/topic_details_test.js
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+module("Discourse.TopicDetails");
+
+var buildDetails = function(id) {
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: id});
+  return topic.get('details');
+};
+
+test('defaults', function() {
+  var details = buildDetails(1234);
+  present(details, "the details are present by default");
+  ok(!details.get('loaded'), "details are not loaded by default");
+});
+
+test('updateFromJson', function() {
+  var details = buildDetails(1234);
+
+  details.updateFromJson({
+    suggested_topics: [{id: 1}, {id: 3}],
+    allowed_users: [{username: 'eviltrout'}]
+  });
+
+  equal(details.get('suggested_topics.length'), 2, 'it loaded the suggested_topics');
+  containsInstance(details.get('suggested_topics'), Discourse.Topic);
+
+  equal(details.get('allowed_users.length'), 1, 'it loaded the allowed users');
+  containsInstance(details.get('allowed_users'), Discourse.User);
+
+});
+
+
+
+
diff --git a/test/javascripts/models/topic_test.js b/test/javascripts/models/topic_test.js
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..38f9ff87cb3
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+++ b/test/javascripts/models/topic_test.js
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+module("Discourse.Topic");
+
+test('has details', function() {
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: 1234});
+  var topicDetails = topic.get('details');
+  present(topicDetails, "a topic has topicDetails after we create it");
+  equal(topicDetails.get('topic'), topic, "the topicDetails has a reference back to the topic");
+});
+
+test('has a postStream', function() {
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: 1234});
+  var postStream = topic.get('postStream');
+  present(postStream, "a topic has a postStream after we create it");
+  equal(postStream.get('topic'), topic, "the postStream has a reference back to the topic");
+});
+
+var category = _.first(Discourse.Category.list());
+
+test('category relationship', function() {
+  // It finds the category by id
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: 1111, category_id: category.get('id') });
+  equal(topic.get('category'), category);
+});
+
+test("updateFromJson", function() {
+  var topic = Discourse.Topic.create({id: 1234});
+
+  topic.updateFromJson({
+    post_stream: [1,2,3],
+    details: {hello: 'world'},
+    cool: 'property',
+    category_id: category.get('id')
+  });
+
+  blank(topic.get('post_stream'), "it does not update post_stream");
+  equal(topic.get('details.hello'), 'world', 'it updates the details');
+  equal(topic.get('cool'), "property", "it updates other properties");
+  equal(topic.get('category'), category);
+});
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