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+/*
+ * Hibernate, Relational Persistence for Idiomatic Java
+ *
+ * License: GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL), version 2.1 or later.
+ * See the lgpl.txt file in the root directory or <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.html>.
+ */
+package org.hibernate.test.collection.delayedOperation;
+
+import java.util.ArrayList;
+import java.util.List;
+import javax.persistence.CascadeType;
+import javax.persistence.Entity;
+import javax.persistence.FetchType;
+import javax.persistence.Id;
+import javax.persistence.ManyToOne;
+import javax.persistence.OneToMany;
+import javax.persistence.OrderColumn;
+import javax.persistence.Table;
+
+import org.hibernate.Hibernate;
+import org.hibernate.Session;
+import org.hibernate.Transaction;
+
+import org.hibernate.testing.FailureExpected;
+import org.hibernate.testing.junit4.BaseNonConfigCoreFunctionalTestCase;
+import org.junit.After;
+import org.junit.Before;
+import org.junit.Test;
+
+import static org.junit.Assert.assertEquals;
+
+/**
+ * @author Steve Ebersole
+ */
+public class ListAddTest extends BaseNonConfigCoreFunctionalTestCase {
+	@Override
+	protected Class[] getAnnotatedClasses() {
+		return new Class[] { Quizz.class, Question.class };
+	}
+
+	@Before
+	public void before() {
+		Session session = sessionFactory().openSession();
+		Transaction transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+		try {
+			Quizz quizz = new Quizz( 1 );
+			session.persist( quizz );
+			quizz.addQuestion( new Question( 1, "question 1" ) );
+			quizz.addQuestion( new Question( 2, "question 2" ) );
+			quizz.addQuestion( new Question( 3, "question 3" ) );
+
+			transaction.commit();
+		}
+		finally {
+			session.close();
+		}
+	}
+
+	@After
+	public void after() {
+		Session session = sessionFactory().openSession();
+		Transaction transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+		session.createQuery( "delete Question" ).executeUpdate();
+		session.createQuery( "delete Quizz" ).executeUpdate();
+		transaction.commit();
+		session.close();
+	}
+
+	/**
+	 * This test fails, but shouldn't
+	 */
+	@Test
+	@FailureExpected( jiraKey = "HHH-9195" )
+	public void addQuestionWithIndexShouldAddQuestionAtSpecifiedIndex() {
+		Session session = openSession();
+		Transaction transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+
+		Quizz quizz = session.get( Quizz.class, 1 );
+		quizz.addQuestion( 1, new Question( 4, "question that should be at index 1" ) );
+
+		transaction.commit();
+		session.close();
+
+		session = openSession();
+		transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+
+		quizz = session.get( Quizz.class,  1);
+
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().size() );
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().get( 1 ).getId().longValue() );
+
+		transaction.commit();
+		session.close();
+	}
+
+	@Test
+	@FailureExpected( jiraKey = "HHH-9195" )
+	public void addQuestionToDetachedQuizz() {
+		Session session = openSession();
+		session.beginTransaction();
+		Quizz quizz = session.get( Quizz.class, 1 );
+		session.getTransaction().commit();
+		session.close();
+
+		quizz.addQuestion( 1, new Question( 4, "question that should be at index 1" ) );
+
+		session = openSession();
+		session.beginTransaction();
+		session.merge( quizz );
+		session.getTransaction().commit();
+		session.close();
+
+		session = openSession();
+		session.getTransaction().begin();
+		quizz = session.get( Quizz.class,  1);
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().size() );
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().get( 1 ).getId().longValue() );
+		session.getTransaction().commit();
+		session.close();
+	}
+
+	/**
+	 * This test succeeds thanks to a dirty workaround consisting in initializing the ordered question list after the
+	 * question has been inserted
+	 */
+	@Test
+	public void addQuestionWithIndexAndInitializeTheListShouldAddQuestionAtSpecifiedIndex() {
+		Session session = openSession();
+		Transaction transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+
+		Quizz quizz = session.get( Quizz.class, 1 );
+		quizz.addQuestionAndInitializeLazyList( 1, new Question( 4, "question that should be at index 1" ) );
+
+		transaction.commit();
+		session.close();
+
+		session = openSession();
+		transaction = session.beginTransaction();
+
+		quizz = session.get( Quizz.class, 1 );
+
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().size());
+		assertEquals( 4, quizz.getQuestions().get(1).getId().longValue() );
+
+		transaction.commit();
+		session.close();
+	}
+
+
+	@Entity( name = "Question" )
+	@Table( name = "Question" )
+	public static class Question {
+		@Id
+		private Integer id;
+		private String text;
+
+		@ManyToOne(fetch = FetchType.LAZY, optional = false)
+		private Quizz quizz;
+
+		public Question() {
+		}
+
+		public Question(Integer id, String text) {
+			this.id = id;
+			this.text = text;
+		}
+
+		public Integer getId() {
+			return id;
+		}
+
+		public void setId(Integer id) {
+			this.id = id;
+		}
+
+		public String getText() {
+			return text;
+		}
+
+		public void setText(String text) {
+			this.text = text;
+		}
+
+		public Quizz getQuizz() {
+			return quizz;
+		}
+
+		public void setQuizz(Quizz quizz) {
+			this.quizz = quizz;
+		}
+
+		@Override
+		public String toString() {
+			return "Question{" +
+					"id=" + id +
+					", text='" + text + '\'' +
+					'}';
+		}
+	}
+
+	@Entity( name = "Quizz" )
+	@Table( name = "Quiz" )
+	public static class Quizz {
+		@Id
+		private Integer id;
+
+		@OneToMany(mappedBy = "quizz", cascade = CascadeType.ALL, orphanRemoval = true)
+		@OrderColumn(name = "position")
+		private List<Question> questions = new ArrayList<Question>();
+
+		public Quizz() {
+		}
+
+		public Quizz(Integer id) {
+			this.id = id;
+		}
+
+		public Integer getId() {
+			return id;
+		}
+
+		public void setId(Integer id) {
+			this.id = id;
+		}
+
+		public List<Question> getQuestions() {
+			return questions;
+		}
+
+		public void addQuestion(Question question) {
+			question.setQuizz(this);
+			questions.add(question);
+		}
+
+		public void addQuestion(int index, Question question) {
+			question.setQuizz(this);
+			questions.add(index, question);
+		}
+
+		public void addQuestionAndInitializeLazyList(int index, Question question) {
+			question.setQuizz(this);
+			questions.add(index, question);
+			Hibernate.initialize( questions );
+		}
+	}
+}