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PEP: 595
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Title: Improving bugs.python.org
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Author: Ezio Melotti <ezio.melotti@gmail.com>, Berker Peksag <berker.peksag@gmail.com>
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BDFL-Delegate: Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org>
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Status: Withdrawn
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Type: Informational
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Content-Type: text/x-rst
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Created: 12-May-2019
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Abstract
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========
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This PEP proposes a list of improvements to make bugs.python.org
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more usable for contributors and core developers. This PEP also
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discusses why remaining on Roundup should be preferred over
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switching to GitHub Issues, as proposed by :pep:`581`.
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2020-06-25 13:24:10 -04:00
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Resolution
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==========
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2022-01-21 06:03:51 -05:00
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2020-06-25: With the acceptance of :pep:`581`, the move to GitHub for
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issues is proceeding, this PEP is being marked as a withdrawn
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informational PEP.
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Motivation
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==========
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2022-04-17 17:06:40 -04:00
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On May 14th, 2019 :pep:`581` has been `accepted
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<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2019-May/157399.html>`_
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without much public discussion and `without a clear consensus
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<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2019-May/006755.html>`_.
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The PEP contains factual errors and doesn't address some of the
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issues that the migration to GitHub Issues might present.
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Given the scope of the migration, the amount of work required,
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and how it will negatively affect the workflow during the
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transition phase, this decision should be re-evaluated.
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.. TODO: add a section with background and terminology?
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(e.g. roundup, bpo, instances, github issues, pep581/588)
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Roundup advantages over GitHub Issues
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=====================================
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This section discusses reasons why Roundup should be preferred
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over GitHub Issues and Roundup features that are not available
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on GitHub Issues.
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* **Roundup is the status quo.** Roundup has been an integral
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part of the CPython workflow for years. It is a stable product
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that has been tested and customized to adapt to our needs as the
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workflow evolved.
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It is possible to gradually improve it and avoid the disruption
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that a switch to a different system would inevitably bring to
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the workflow.
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* **Open-source and Python powered.** Roundup is an open-source
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project and is written in Python. By using it and supporting
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it, we also support the Python ecosystem. Several features
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developed for bpo have also been ported to upstream Roundup
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over the years.
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* **Fully customizable.** Roundup can be (and has been) fully
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customized to fit our needs.
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* **Finer-grained access control.** Roundup allows the creation
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of different roles with different permissions (e.g. create,
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view, edit, etc.) for each individual property, and users can
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have multiple roles.
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* **Flexible UI.** While Roundup UI might look dated, it is
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convenient and flexible.
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For example, on the issue page, each field (e.g. title, type,
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versions, status, linked files and PRs, etc.) have appropriate
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UI elements (input boxes, dropdowns, tables, etc.) that are
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easy to set and also provide a convenient way to get info about
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the issue at a glance. The number of fields, their values, and
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the UI element they use is also fully customizable.
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GitHub only provides labels.
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The issue list page presents the issues in a compact and easy
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to read table with separate columns for different fields. For
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comparison, Roundup lists 50 issues in a screen, whereas GitHub
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takes two screens to shows 25 issues.
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* **Advanced search.** Roundup provides an accurate way to search
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and filter by using any combination of issue fields.
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It is also possible to customize the number of results and the
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fields displayed in the table, and the sorting and grouping
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(up to two levels).
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bpo also provides predefined summaries (e.g. "Created by you",
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"Assigned to you", etc.) and allows the creation of custom
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search queries that can be conveniently accessed from the sidebar.
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* **Nosy list autocomplete.** The nosy list has an autocomplete
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feature that suggests maintainers and experts. The suggestions
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are automatically updated when the `experts index
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<https://devguide.python.org/experts/>`_ changes.
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* **Dependencies and Superseders.** Roundup allows to specify
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dependencies that must be addressed before the current issues
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can be closed and a superseder issue to easily mark duplicates
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(for example, `bpo-12078 <https://bugs.python.org/issue12078>`_).
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The list of dependencies can also be used to create
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meta-issues that references several other sub-issues
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(for example, `bpo-26865 <https://bugs.python.org/issue26865>`_).
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Improving Roundup
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=================
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This section lists some of the issues mentioned by :pep:`581`
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and other desired features and discusses how they can be implemented
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by improving Roundup and/or our instance.
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* **REST API support.** A REST API will make integration with other
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services and the development of new tools and applications easier.
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Upstream Roundup now supports a REST API. Updating the tracker will
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make the REST API available.
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* **GitHub login support.** This will allow users to login
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to bugs.python.org (bpo) without having to create a new account.
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It will also solve issues with confirmation emails being marked
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as spam, and provide two-factor authentication.
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A patch to add this functionality is `already available
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<https://github.com/python/bugs.python.org/issues/7>`_
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and is being integrated at the time of writing.
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* **Markdown support and message preview and editing.** This feature
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will allow the use of Markdown in messages and the ability to
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preview the message before the submission and edit it afterward.
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This can be done, but it will take some work. Possible solutions
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have been proposed on the `roundup-devel mailing list
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<https://sourceforge.net/p/roundup/mailman/message/36667828/>`_.
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* **"Remove me from nosy list" button.** Add a button on issue pages
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to remove self from the nosy list.
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This feature will be added during GSoC 2019.
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* **Mobile friendly theme.** Current theme of bugs.python.org looks
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dated and it doesn't work well with mobile browsers.
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A mobile-friendly theme that is more modern but still familiar
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will be added.
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* **Move reply box close to the last message.** The reply box is
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located at the top of the page, whereas the last message is at the
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bottom.
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The reply box can be moved or duplicated after the last message.
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* **Real-time updates.** When another users submits changes to an
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issue, they should show up in real time.
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This can be accomplished by using the REST API.
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* **Add PR link to BPO emails.** Currently bpo emails don't include
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links to the corresponding PRs.
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A `patch <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tracker-discuss/2018-June/004547.html>`_
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is available to change the content of the bpo emails from:
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.. code-block:: text
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components: +Tkinter
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versions: +Python 3.4
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pull_requests: +42
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to:
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.. code-block:: text
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components: +Tkinter
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versions: +Python 3.4
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pull_request: https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/341
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* **Python 3 support.** Using Python 3 will make maintenance easier.
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Upstream Roundup now supports Python 3. Updating the tracker will
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allow us to switch to Python 3. The instances will need to be
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updated as well.
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* **Use upstream Roundup.** We currently use a fork of Roundup with
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a few modifications, most notably the GitHub integration. If this
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is ported upstream, we can start using upstream Roundup without
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having to maintain our fork.
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PEP 581 issues
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==============
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This section addresses some errors and inaccuracies found in :pep:`581`.
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The "Why GitHub?" section of :pep:`581` lists features currently
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available on GitHub Issues but not on Roundup. Some of this features
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are currently supported:
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* "Ability to reply to issue and pull request conversations via email."
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* Being able to reply by email has been one of the core features of
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Roundup since the beginning. It is also possible to create new
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issues or close existing ones, set or modify fields, and add
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attachments.
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* "Email notifications containing metadata, integrated with Gmail,
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allowing systematic filtering of emails."
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* Emails sent by Roundup contains metadata that can be used for
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filtering.
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* "Additional privacy, such as offering the user a choice to hide an
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email address, while still allowing communication with the user
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through @-mentions."
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* Email addresses are hidden by default to users that are not
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registered. Registered users can see other users' addresses
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because we configured the tracker to show them. It can easily
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be changed if desired. Users can still be added to the nosy
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list by using their username even if their address is hidden.
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* "Ability to automatically close issues when a PR has been merged."
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* The GitHub integration of Roundup automatically closes issues
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when a commit that contains "fixes issue <id>" is merged.
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(Alternative spellings such as "closes" or "bug" are also supported.)
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See `this message <https://bugs.python.org/issue36951#msg342882>`_
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for a recent example of this feature.
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* "Support for permalinks, allowing easy quoting and copying &
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pasting of source code."
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* Roundup has permalinks for issues, messages, attachments, etc.
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In addition, Roundup allows to easily rewrite broken URLs in
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messages (e.g. if the code hosting changes).
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* "Core developers, volunteers, and the PSF don't have to maintain the
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issue infrastructure/site, giving us more time and resources to focus
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on the development of Python."
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* While this is partially true, additional resources are required to
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write and maintain bots.
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In some cases, bots are required to workaround GitHub's lack of
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features rather than expanding. `This webhook
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<https://github.com/berkerpeksag/cpython-emailer-webhook>`_
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was written specifically to workaround GitHub's email integration.
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Updating our bots to stay up-to-date with changes in the GitHub API
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has also maintenance cost. `This recent incident caused by GitHub
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<https://github.com/python/bedevere/pull/163>`_
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took two days to be fixed.
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In addition, we will still need to maintain Roundup for bpo (even
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if it becomes read-only) and for the other trackers
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we currently host/maintain (`Jython <https://bugs.jython.org/>`_
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and `Roundup <https://issues.roundup-tracker.org/>`_).
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The "Issues with Roundup / bpo" section of :pep:`581` lists some issues
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that have already been fixed:
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* "The upstream Roundup code is in Mercurial. Without any CI available,
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it puts heavy burden on the few existing maintainers in terms of
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reviewing, testing, and applying patches."
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* While Roundup uses Mercurial by default, there is a `git clone
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available on GitHub <https://github.com/roundup-tracker/roundup>`_.
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Roundup also has CI available on `Travis CI
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<https://github.com/roundup-tracker/roundup>`_ and `Codecov
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<https://codecov.io/gh/roundup-tracker/roundup/commits>`_.
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* "There is no REST API available. There is an open issue in Roundup for
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adding REST API. Last activity was in 2016."
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* The REST API has been integrated and it's now available in Roundup.
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* "Users email addresses are exposed. There is no option to mask it."
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* Exposing addresses to registered and logged in users was a decision
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taken when our instance was set up.
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This has now been changed to make the email addresses hidden for
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regular users too (Developers and Coordinators can still see them).
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The "Email address" column from the `user listing page
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<https://bugs.python.org/user?@sort=username>`_ has been
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removed too.
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* "It sends a number of unnecessary emails and notifications, and it is
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difficult, if not impossible, to configure."
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* This can be configured.
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* "Creating an account has been a hassle. There have been reports of people
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having trouble creating accounts or logging in."
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* The main issue is confirmation emails being marked as spam. Work has
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been done to resolve the issue.
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.. TODO: investigate the status of this; when was the last report?
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See https://mail.python.org/pipermail/tracker-discuss/2018-December/004631.html
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Migration considerations
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========================
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This section describes issues with the migrations that might not
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have been addressed by :pep:`581` and :pep:`588`.
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:pep:`588` suggests to add a button to migrate issues to GitHub
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only when someone wants to keep working on them. This approach
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has several issues, but there are also other issues that will
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need to be addressed regardless of the approach used:
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* **Vendor lock-in.** GitHub is proprietary and there is risk
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of vendor lock-in. Their business model might change and they
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could shut down altogether. For example, several projects
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decided to move away from GitHub after Microsoft acquisition.
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If/when the repository is no longer available on GitHub, we will
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be forced to migrate again and all the links to the issues won't
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work anymore.
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* **Required bpo updates.** bpo will need to be updated in order
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to add a button that, once pressed, creates a new issue on
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GitHub, copies over all the messages, attachments, and
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creates/adds labels for the existing fields. Permissions will
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also need to be tweaked to make individual issues read-only
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once they are migrated, and to prevent users to create new
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accounts. It might be necessary to set up redirects (see below).
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* **Two trackers.** If issues are migrated on demand, the issues
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will be split between two trackers. Referencing and searching
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issues will take significant more effort.
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* **Lossy conversion.** GitHub only mechanism to add custom metadata
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is through labels. bpo uses a number of fields to specify several
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different metadata. Preserving all fields and values will result
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in too many labels. If only some fields and values are preserved
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the others will be lost (unless there is a way to preserve them
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elsewhere).
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* **Issue IDs preservation.** GitHub doesn't provide a way to
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set and preserve the ID of migrated issues. Some projects managed
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to preserve the IDs by contacting the GitHub staff and migrating
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the issues *en masse*. However, this is no longer possible, since
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PRs and issues share the same namespace and PRs already use
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existing bpo issue IDs.
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* **Internal issue links preservation.** Existing issues might
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contain references to other issues in messages and fields (e.g.
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dependencies or superseder). Since the issue ID will change
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during the migration, these will need to be updated. If the
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issues are migrated on demand, all the existing internal
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references to the migrated issues (on both bpo and GitHub issues)
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will have to be updated.
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Setting up a redirect for each migrated issue on bpo might
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mitigate the issue, however -- if references in migrated messages
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are not updated -- it will cause confusion (e.g. if bpo issue
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``#1234`` becomes GitHub issue ``#4321``, a reference to ``#1234``
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in a migrated message could link to bpo ``#1234`` and bpo can
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redirect to GitHub issue ``#4321``, but new references to ``#1234``
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will link to GitHub PR ``#1234`` rather than GitHub issue ``#4321``).
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Manually having to specify a ``bpo-`` or ``gh-`` prefix is error prone.
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* **External issue links preservation.** A number of websites,
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mails, etc. link to bpo issues. If bpo is shut down, these links
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will break. If we don't want to break the links, we will have to
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keep bpo alive and set up a redirect system that links to the
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corresponding GitHub issue.
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In addition, if GitHub shuts down, we won't have any way to setup
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redirects and preserve external links to GitHub issues.
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* **References preservation and updating.** In addition to issue
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references, bpo `converts a number of other references into links
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<https://devguide.python.org/triaging/#generating-special-links-in-a-comment>`_,
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including message and PR IDs, changeset numbers, legacy SVN
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revision numbers, paths to files in the repo, files in tracebacks
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(detecting the correct branch), and links to devguide pages and
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sections.
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Since Roundup converts references to links when messages are
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requested, it is possible to update the target and generate the
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correct link. This need already arose several times, for
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example: files and HG changesets moved from ``hg.python.org`` to
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GitHub and the devguide moved from ``docs.python.org/devguide`` to
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``devguide.python.org``.
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Since messages on GitHub are static, the links will need to be
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generated and hardcoded during the migration or they will be lost.
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In order to update them, a tool to find all references and
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regenerate the links will need to be written.
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* **Roundup and bpo maintenance.** On top of the aforementioned
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changes to bpo and development of tools required to migrate to
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GitHub issues, we will still need to keep running and maintaining
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Roundup, both for our bpo instance (read-only) and for the Jython
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and Roundup trackers (read-write).
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Even if eventually we migrate all bpo issues to GitHub and we stop
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maintaining Jython and Roundup, bpo will need to be maintained
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and redirect to the corresponding GitHub issues.
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* **Bots maintenance.** Since it's not possible to customize GitHub
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directly, it's also necessary to write, maintain, and host bots.
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Even if eventually we stop maintaining Roundup, the maintenance
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burden simply shifted from Roundup to the bots. Hosting each
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different bot also has a monetary cost.
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* **Using issue templates.** Manually editing issue templates to
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"remove texts that don't apply to [the] issue" is cumbersome and
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error-prone.
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* **Signal to noise ratio.** Switching to GitHub Issues will
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likely increase the number of invalid reports and increase
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the triaging effort. This concern has been raised in the past
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in a `Zulip topic
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<https://python.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/130206-pep581/topic/s.2Fn.20ratio>`_.
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There have been already cases where people posted comments on
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PRs that required moderators to mark them as off-topic or
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disruptive, delete them altogether, and even lock the
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conversation (for example, `this PR
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<https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9099>`_.
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* **Weekly tracker reports and stats.** Roundup sends weekly reports
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to python-dev with a summary that includes new issues, recent
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issues with no replies, recent issues waiting for review, most
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discussed issues, closed issues, and deltas for open/closed/total
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issue counts (for example, see `this summary
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<https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2019-May/157483.html>`_).
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The report provides an easy way to keep track
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of the tracker activity and to make sure that issues that require
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attention are noticed.
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The data collect by the weekly report is also used to generate
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`statistics and graphs <https://bugs.python.org/issue?@template=stats>`_
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that can be used to gain new insights.
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* **bpo-related MLs.** There are currently two mailing lists where
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bpo posts new tracker issues and all messages respectively:
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`new-bugs-announce <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/new-bugs-announce>`_
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and `python-bugs-list <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-bugs-list>`_.
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A new system will need to be developed to preserve this functionality. These MLs
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offer additional ways to keep track of the tracker activity.
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Copyright
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=========
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This document has been placed in the public domain.
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