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PEP: 581
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Title: Using GitHub Issues for CPython
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Version: $Revision$
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Last-Modified: $Date$
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Author: Mariatta <mariatta@python.org>
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BDFL-Delegate: Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org>
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Discussions-To: Core-Workflow Category on Discourse
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Status: Accepted
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Type: Process
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Content-Type: text/x-rst
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Created: 20-Jun-2018
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Post-History: 7-Mar-2019
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Resolution: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2019-May/157399.html
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Abstract
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========
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This PEP outlines the rationale for migration from Python's issue
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tracker on Roundup to GitHub issues. See :pep:`588` for the detailed
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migration plan.
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Rationale
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=========
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CPython's development moved to GitHub in February 2017. All other
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projects within the PSF's organization are hosted on GitHub and are
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using GitHub issues. CPython is still using Roundup as the issue
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tracker on bugs.python.org (bpo) [#]_.
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Why GitHub?
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GitHub has a lot of nice features, readily available out of the box. Some of
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these aren't readily available on Roundup / bpo.
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- APIs that can be used to build integrations and automations. There are various
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existing integrations and applications available from GitHub Marketplace to
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help with the workflow. New applications are easily installed and enabled.
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In addition, we've had great success with building our own GitHub bots, like
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miss-islington [#]_, bedevere [#]_, and the-knights-who-say-ni [#]_.
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- Ability to embed/drag and drop screenshots and debug log files into GitHub
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pull requests and issues.
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- Administrators and core developers can edit issues, comments, and pull requests.
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- Ability to reply to issue and pull request conversations via email.
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- Support for two factor authentication.
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- Support for markdown and emoji.
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- Preview tab, showing how a comment will be rendered, prior to
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actually posting.
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- Support for voting via reactions.
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- Support for permalinks [#]_, allowing easy quoting and copying & pasting of
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source code. It is possible to automatically embed code snippet on GitHub
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by pasting a permalink.
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- Core developers, volunteers, and the PSF don't have to maintain the
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issue infrastructure/site, giving us more time and resources to focus on the
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development of Python.
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- Ability to automatically close issues when a PR has been merged [#]_.
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- Note that this feature exists in bpo too.
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- Lower barrier to contribution. With more than 28 million users, an open
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source contributor is more likely to already have an account and be familiar
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with GitHub's interface, making it easier to start contributing.
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- Email notifications containing metadata [#]_, integrated with Gmail, allowing
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systematic filtering of emails. While Roundup emails contain some metadata,
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they're not as extensive.
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- Additional privacy, such as offering the user a choice to hide an
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email address, while still allowing communication with the user
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through @-mentions.
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Issues with Roundup / bpo
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- Less than five people maintain bpo. Some of them are core developers.
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- The upstream Roundup code is in Mercurial. Without any CI available,
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it puts heavy burden on the few existing maintainers in terms of
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reviewing, testing, and applying patches. While there is an unofficial mirror
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of Roundup on GitHub [#]_, Mercurial patches are still the main way to contribute
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to it.
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There is an open discussion about moving the source code of bpo to
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GitHub [#]_. If the source code of bpo does move to GitHub, it will
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become difficult to update patches from upstream. But as long as it
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is in Mercurial, it is difficult to maintain and onboard new
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contributors.
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- In its current state, the project is not equipped to accept lots of
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contributions from people who aren't already familiar with the code
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base.
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- The user interface needs an update and redesign. It will require UX/UI research
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to keep it up to date with current web standards, including accessibility.
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- Users email addresses were exposed.
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- Note: Exposing email address to registered and logged in users was a decision
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taken when bpo instance was setup. This behavior has been recently modified
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after :pep:`581`'s acceptance.
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- REST API is not currently available in bpo. There was an open issue in Roundup
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for adding REST API [#]_. At the time :pep:`581` was proposed, the ticket received
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no activity since 2016. REST API has been integrated in Roundup in February 2019,
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however it is not yet integrated to bpo.
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- It sends a number of unnecessary emails and notifications. An example is the nosy email,
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where email notifications are sent whenever someone adds themselves as "nosy".
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An issue has been filed in upstream Roundup about this since 2012 with
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little traction [#]_. While it can be configured, the request to configure it
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was not addressed/ignored.
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- Creating an account has been a hassle. There have been reports of people
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having trouble creating accounts or logging in. Some examples of open tickets:
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"Commas in username causes error in nosy list" [#]_, "An error has occurred .." [#]_,
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"It is not sending me the confirmation email ..." [#]_.
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Why not GitLab?
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===============
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Had we migrated to GitLab instead of GitHub in 2017, this PEP would have been
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titled "Using GitLab Issues for CPython".
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Why not another issue tracker?
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Using another issue tracker will require yet another learning curve, for having
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to learn and get used to a different interface. We'll also need to learn and
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figure out how to build the integrations with GitHub.
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By using GitHub issues, where the CPython source code is currently
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hosted and where pull requests are taking place, we'll be providing
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consistent experience to contributors and maintainers, while not
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having to jump from one interface to another.
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Why not focus on improving Roundup / bpo?
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GitHub has many features we like that are already available. We still need to
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build out additional integrations and update our bots, but this is something
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we already know how to do.
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In order to really improve Roundup / bpo, it needs to first migrate to GitHub
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and add CI and bots. As I understand it, there is hesitation because upstream
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Roundup is still in Mercurial. Someone more familiar with Roundup / bpo needs
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to champion this effort. (I'm not volunteering, I'm sorry).
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I believe the effort of creating and maintaining GitHub integrations and bots
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is much less than the effort needed to get Roundup up to speed and then to
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continue maintaining it.
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Downsides of GitHub
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GitHub is not the perfect issue tracker. Several issues we need to be aware of:
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- Fear of uncertainty and vendor lock in. GitHub is proprietary and there is
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risk of vendor lock-in. However, this is an existing problem since CPython's
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codebase is already on GitHub. This is also not a unique problem to CPython.
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As a precautionary step, CPython's repository on GitHub has
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been backed up on daily basis since June 2018. [#]_
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- Bots maintenance costs money, and also takes up volunteer time. We would
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be shifting maintenance burden from Roundup to the bots. At the very least,
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so far we've been able to address any bugs/issues related to the bots/GitHub
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APIs rather quickly, in a matter of days, instead of months or years. GitHub
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APIs are extensive, and used not only by CPython's bots but also by the wider
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Python community. It makes GitHub APIs more approachable compared to
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the maintenance of Roundup/bpo.
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- Using GitHub could possibly increase the triaging effort. This was first raised
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as a Zulip topic [#]_, and also brought up during Core Python sprint in
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September 2018 [#]_. A few solutions have been proposed and considered, such as
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creating a special triage team [#]_. After :pep:`581`'s acceptance, GitHub released a
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new triaging role, currently in beta. The PSF has been in touch with GitHub
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to have this enabled for Python organization. This is pending GitHub's review [#]_.
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- Using GitHub could make it easier for people to post disruptive or spammy comments.
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It is true that there has been incidents where core developers have to moderate
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and lock disruptive discussions on GitHub. Thankfully, GitHub interface makes
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it easy for core developers to moderate discussions. In addition, incidents
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can be escalated to GitHub.
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- Manually editing issue templates can be cumbersome and error-prone. However,
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for most people, creating issues on GitHub will be a much better experience
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than creating issue on bpo. The numerous fields and textbox to choose from
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can be confusing and intimidating to a newcomer, and it is not possible
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to "edit" a message. On GitHub, issue creator can preview their submission,
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and edit their mistake after posting.
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- bpo uses a number of fields to specify several metadata, and these might not
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be easily transferable to GitHub. The intended way to handle custom metadata
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on GitHub is by using labels. The details of which labels to create will be
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further discussed in :pep:`588`.
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Further questions and discussions
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You can post questions on Discourse under the
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`Core-Workflow <https://discuss.python.org/c/core-workflow>`_ category.
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Acknowledgements
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Thanks to Guido van Rossum, Brett Cannon, and Nick Coghlan, who were consulted
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in the early stage and research of this PEP. Their feedback, concerns, input,
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and ideas have been valuable.
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References
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==========
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.. [#] bugs.python.org
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(https://bugs.python.org/)
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.. [#] miss-islington
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(https://github.com/python/miss-islington)
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.. [#] bedevere
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(https://github.com/python/bedevere)
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.. [#] the-knights-who-say-ni
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(https://github.com/python/the-knights-who-say-ni)
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.. [#] Getting permanent links to files
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(https://help.github.com/articles/getting-permanent-links-to-files/)
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.. [#] Closing issues using keywords
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(https://help.github.com/articles/closing-issues-using-keywords/)
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.. [#] About GitHub email notifications
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(https://help.github.com/articles/about-email-notifications/)
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.. [#] Unofficial GitHub mirror of Roundup
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(https://github.com/roundup-tracker/roundup)
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.. [#] Consider whether or not to migrate bugs.python.org source code
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to GitHub repo
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(https://github.com/python/bugs.python.org/issues/2)
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.. [#] Roundup issue 2550734: Expose roundup via a RESTful interface
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(http://issues.roundup-tracker.org/issue2550734)
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.. [#] Roundup issue 2550742: Do not send email by default when adding
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or removing oneself from the Nosy list
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(http://issues.roundup-tracker.org/issue2550742)
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.. [#] Commas in username causes error
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(https://github.com/python/bugs.python.org/issues/26)
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.. [#] It is not sending me the confirmation email
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(https://github.com/python/bugs.python.org/issues/27)
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.. [#] An error has occurred
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(https://github.com/python/bugs.python.org/issues/26)
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.. [#] Backup GitHub information
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(https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/20#issuecomment-396709762)
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.. [#] s/n ratio -- Python -- Zulip
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(https://python.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/130206-pep581/topic/s.2Fn.20ratio)
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.. [#] PEP 581 discussion at Python Core Sprint 2018
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(https://mariatta.ca/core-sprint-2018-part-2.html)
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.. [#] Proposal: Create Bug Triage team on GitHub
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(https://discuss.python.org/t/proposal-create-bug-triage-team-on-github/992)
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.. [#] Request to enable triage role on GitHub
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(https://discuss.python.org/t/proposal-create-bug-triage-team-on-github/992/16)
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This document has been placed in the public domain.
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