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PEP: 413
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Title: Faster evolution of the Python Standard Library
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Version: $Revision$
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Last-Modified: $Date$
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Author: Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com>
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Status: Withdrawn
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Type: Process
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Content-Type: text/x-rst
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Created: 24-Feb-2012
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Post-History: 2012-02-24, 2012-02-25
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PEP Withdrawal
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With the acceptance of :pep:`453` meaning that ``pip`` will be available to
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most new Python users by default, this will hopefully reduce the pressure
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to add new modules to the standard library before they are sufficiently
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mature.
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The last couple of years have also seen increased usage of the model where
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a standard library package also has an equivalent available from the Python
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Package Index that also supports older versions of Python.
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Given these two developments and the level of engagement throughout the
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Python 3.4 release cycle, the PEP author no longer feels it would be
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appropriate to make such a fundamental change to the standard library
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development process.
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Abstract
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========
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This PEP proposes the adoption of a separate versioning scheme for the
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standard library (distinct from, but coupled to, the existing language
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versioning scheme) that allows accelerated releases of the Python standard
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library, while maintaining (or even slowing down) the current rate of
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change in the core language definition.
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Like :pep:`407`, it aims to adjust the current balance between measured
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change that allows the broader community time to adapt and being able to
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keep pace with external influences that evolve more rapidly than the current
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release cycle can handle (this problem is particularly notable for
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standard library elements that relate to web technologies).
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However, it's more conservative in its aims than :pep:`407`, seeking to
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restrict the increased pace of development to builtin and standard library
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interfaces, without affecting the rate of change for other elements such
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as the language syntax and version numbering as well as the CPython
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binary API and bytecode format.
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Rationale
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=========
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To quote the :pep:`407` abstract:
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Finding a release cycle for an open-source project is a delicate exercise
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in managing mutually contradicting constraints: developer manpower,
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availability of release management volunteers, ease of maintenance for
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users and third-party packagers, quick availability of new features (and
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behavioural changes), availability of bug fixes without pulling in new
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features or behavioural changes.
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The current release cycle errs on the conservative side. It is adequate
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for people who value stability over reactivity. This PEP is an attempt to
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keep the stability that has become a Python trademark, while offering a
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more fluid release of features, by introducing the notion of long-term
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support versions.
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I agree with the :pep:`407` authors that the current release cycle of the
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*standard library* is too slow to effectively cope with the pace of change
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in some key programming areas (specifically, web protocols and related
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technologies, including databases, templating and serialisation formats).
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However, I have written this competing PEP because I believe that the
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approach proposed in :pep:`407` of offering full, potentially binary
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incompatible releases of CPython every 6 months places too great a burden
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on the wider Python ecosystem.
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Under the current CPython release cycle, distributors of key binary
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extensions will often support Python releases even after the CPython branches
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enter "security fix only" mode (for example, Twisted currently ships binaries
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for 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7, NumPy and SciPy support those 3 along with 3.1 and 3.2,
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PyGame adds a 2.4 binary release, wxPython provides both 32-bit and 64-bit
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binaries for 2.6 and 2.7, etc).
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If CPython were to triple (or more) its rate of releases, the developers of
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those libraries (many of which are even more resource starved than CPython)
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would face an unpalatable choice: either adopt the faster release cycle
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themselves (up to 18 simultaneous binary releases for PyGame!), drop
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older Python versions more quickly, or else tell their users to stick to the
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CPython LTS releases (thus defeating the entire point of speeding up the
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CPython release cycle in the first place).
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Similarly, many support tools for Python (e.g. syntax highlighters) can take
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quite some time to catch up with language level changes.
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At a cultural level, the Python community is also accustomed to a certain
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meaning for Python version numbers - they're linked to deprecation periods,
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support periods, all sorts of things. :pep:`407` proposes that collective
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knowledge all be swept aside, without offering a compelling rationale for why
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such a course of action is actually *necessary* (aside from, perhaps, making
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the lives of the CPython core developers a little easier at the expense of
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everyone else).
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However, if we go back to the primary rationale for increasing the pace of
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change (i.e. more timely support for web protocols and related technologies),
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we can note that those only require *standard library* changes. That means
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many (perhaps even most) of the negative effects on the wider community can
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be avoided by explicitly limiting which parts of CPython are affected by the
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new release cycle, and allowing other parts to evolve at their current, more
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sedate, pace.
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Proposal
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========
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This PEP proposes the introduction of a new kind of CPython release:
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"standard library releases". As with :pep:`407`, this will give CPython 3 kinds
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of release:
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* Language release: "x.y.0"
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* Maintenance release: "x.y.z" (where z > 0)
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* Standard library release: "x.y (xy.z)" (where z > 0)
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Under this scheme, an unqualified version reference (such as "3.3") would
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always refer to the most recent corresponding language or maintenance
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release. It will never be used without qualification to refer to a standard
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library release (at least, not by python-dev - obviously, we can only set an
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example, not force the rest of the Python ecosystem to go along with it).
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Language releases will continue as they are now, as new versions of the
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Python language definition, along with a new version of the CPython
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interpreter and the Python standard library. Accordingly, a language
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release may contain any and all of the following changes:
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* new language syntax
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* new standard library changes (see below)
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* new deprecation warnings
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* removal of previously deprecated features
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* changes to the emitted bytecode
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* changes to the AST
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* any other significant changes to the compilation toolchain
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* changes to the core interpreter eval loop
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* binary incompatible changes to the C ABI (although the :pep:`384` stable ABI
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must still be preserved)
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* bug fixes
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Maintenance releases will also continue as they do today, being strictly
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limited to bug fixes for the corresponding language release. No new features
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or radical internal changes are permitted.
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The new standard library releases will occur in parallel with each
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maintenance release and will be qualified with a new version identifier
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documenting the standard library version. Standard library releases may
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include the following changes:
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* new features in pure Python modules
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* new features in C extension modules (subject to :pep:`399` compatibility
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requirements)
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* new features in language builtins (provided the C ABI remains unaffected)
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* bug fixes from the corresponding maintenance release
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Standard library version identifiers are constructed by combining the major
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and minor version numbers for the Python language release into a single two
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digit number and then appending a sequential standard library version
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identifier.
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Release Cycle
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When maintenance releases are created, *two* new versions of Python would
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actually be published on python.org (using the first 3.3 maintenance release,
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planned for February 2013 as an example)::
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3.3.1 # Maintenance release
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3.3 (33.1) # Standard library release
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A further 6 months later, the next 3.3 maintenance release would again be
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accompanied by a new standard library release::
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3.3.2 # Maintenance release
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3.3 (33.2) # Standard library release
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Again, the standard library release would be binary compatible with the
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previous language release, merely offering additional features at the
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Python level.
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Finally, 18 months after the release of 3.3, a new language release would
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be made around the same time as the final 3.3 maintenance and standard
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library releases::
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3.3.3 # Maintenance release
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3.3 (33.3) # Standard library release
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3.4.0 # Language release
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The 3.4 release cycle would then follow a similar pattern to that for 3.3::
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3.4.1 # Maintenance release
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3.4 (34.1) # Standard library release
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3.4.2 # Maintenance release
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3.4 (34.2) # Standard library release
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3.4.3 # Maintenance release
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3.4 (34.3) # Standard library release
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3.5.0 # Language release
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Programmatic Version Identification
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-----------------------------------
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To expose the new version details programmatically, this PEP proposes the
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addition of a new ``sys.stdlib_info`` attribute that records the new
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standard library version above and beyond the underlying interpreter
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version. Using the initial Python 3.3 release as an example::
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sys.stdlib_info(python=33, version=0, releaselevel='final', serial=0)
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This information would also be included in the ``sys.version`` string::
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Python 3.3.0 (33.0, default, Feb 17 2012, 23:03:41)
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[GCC 4.6.1]
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Security Fixes and Other "Out of Cycle" Releases
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------------------------------------------------
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For maintenance releases the process of handling out-of-cycle releases (for
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example, to fix a security issue or resolve a critical bug in a new release),
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remains the same as it is now: the minor version number is incremented and a
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new release is made incorporating the required bug fixes, as well as any
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other bug fixes that have been committed since the previous release.
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For standard library releases, the process is essentially the same, but the
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corresponding "What's New?" document may require some tidying up for the
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release (as the standard library release may incorporate new features,
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not just bug fixes).
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User Scenarios
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The versioning scheme proposed above is based on a number of user scenarios
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that are likely to be encountered if this scheme is adopted. In each case,
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the scenario is described for both the status quo (i.e. slow release cycle)
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the versioning scheme in this PEP and the free wheeling minor version number
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scheme proposed in :pep:`407`.
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To give away the ending, the point of using a separate version number is that
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for almost all scenarios, the important number is the *language* version, not
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the standard library version. Most users won't even need to care that the
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standard library version number exists. In the two identified cases where
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it matters, providing it as a separate number is actually clearer and more
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explicit than embedding the two different kinds of number into a single
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sequence and then tagging some of the numbers in the unified sequence as
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special.
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Novice user, downloading Python from python.org in March 2013
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**Status quo:** must choose between 3.3 and 2.7
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**This PEP:** must choose between 3.3 (33.1), 3.3 and 2.7.
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**PEP 407:** must choose between 3.4, 3.3 (LTS) and 2.7.
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**Verdict:** explaining the meaning of a Long Term Support release is about as
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complicated as explaining the meaning of the proposed standard library release
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version numbers. I call this a tie.
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Novice user, attempting to judge currency of third party documentation
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**Status quo:** minor version differences indicate 18-24 months of
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language evolution
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**This PEP:** same as status quo for language core, standard library version
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numbers indicate 6 months of standard library evolution.
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**PEP 407:** minor version differences indicate 18-24 months of language
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evolution up to 3.3, then 6 months of language evolution thereafter.
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**Verdict:** Since language changes and deprecations can have a much bigger
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effect on the accuracy of third party documentation than the addition of new
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features to the standard library, I'm calling this a win for the scheme
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in this PEP.
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Novice user, looking for an extension module binary release
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**Status quo:** look for the binary corresponding to the Python version you are
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running.
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**This PEP:** same as status quo.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (full releases):** same as status quo, but corresponding binary version
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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is more likely to be missing (or, if it does exist, has to be found amongst
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a much larger list of alternatives).
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (ABI updates limited to LTS releases):** all binary release pages will
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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need to tell users that Python 3.3, 3.4 and 3.5 all need the 3.3 binary.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Verdict:** I call this a clear win for the scheme in this PEP. Absolutely
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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nothing changes from the current situation, since the standard library
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version is actually irrelevant in this case (only binary extension
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compatibility is important).
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Extension module author, deciding whether or not to make a binary release
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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**Status quo:** unless using the :pep:`384` stable ABI, a new binary release is
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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needed every time the minor version number changes.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**This PEP:** same as status quo.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (full releases):** same as status quo, but becomes a far more
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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frequent occurrence.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (ABI updates limited to LTS releases):** before deciding, must first
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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look up whether the new release is an LTS release or an interim release. If
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it is an LTS release, then a new build is necessary.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Verdict:** I call this another clear win for the scheme in this PEP. As with
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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the end user facing side of this problem, the standard library version is
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actually irrelevant in this case. Moving that information out to a
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separate number avoids creating unnecessary confusion.
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Python developer, deciding priority of eliminating a Deprecation Warning
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Status quo:** code that triggers deprecation warnings is not guaranteed to
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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run on a version of Python with a higher minor version number.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**This PEP:** same as status quo
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407:** unclear, as the PEP doesn't currently spell this out. Assuming the
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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deprecation cycle is linked to LTS releases, then upgrading to a non-LTS
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release is safe but upgrading to the next LTS release may require avoiding
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the deprecated construct.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Verdict:** another clear win for the scheme in this PEP since, once again, the
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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standard library version is irrelevant in this scenario.
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Alternative interpreter implementor, updating with new features
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---------------------------------------------------------------
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Status quo:** new Python versions arrive infrequently, but are a mish-mash of
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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standard library updates and core language definition and interpreter
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changes.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**This PEP:** standard library updates, which are easier to integrate, are
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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made available more frequently in a form that is clearly and explicitly
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compatible with the previous version of the language definition. This means
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that, once an alternative implementation catches up to Python 3.3, they
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should have a much easier time incorporating standard library features as
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they happen (especially pure Python changes), leaving minor version number
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updates as the only task that requires updates to their core compilation and
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execution components.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (full releases):** same as status quo, but becomes a far more
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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frequent occurrence.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407 (language updates limited to LTS releases):** unclear, as the PEP
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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doesn't currently spell out a specific development strategy. Assuming a
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3.3 compatibility branch is adopted (as proposed in this PEP), then the
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outcome would be much the same, but the version number signalling would be
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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slightly less clear (since you would have to check to see if a particular
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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release was an LTS release or not).
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Verdict:** while not as clear cut as some previous scenarios, I'm still
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calling this one in favour of the scheme in this PEP. Explicit is better than
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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implicit, and the scheme in this PEP makes a clear split between the two
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different kinds of update rather than adding a separate "LTS" tag to an
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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otherwise ordinary release number. Tagging a particular version as being
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special is great for communicating with version control systems and associated
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automated tools, but it's a lousy way to communicate information to other
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humans.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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Python developer, deciding their minimum version dependency
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-----------------------------------------------------------
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2012-02-25 03:56:13 -05:00
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**Status quo:** look for "version added" or "version changed" markers in the
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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documentation, check against ``sys.version_info``
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2012-02-25 03:56:13 -05:00
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**This PEP:** look for "version added" or "version changed" markers in the
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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documentation. If written as a bare Python version, such as "3.3", check
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against ``sys.version_info``. If qualified with a standard library version,
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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such as "3.3 (33.1)", check against ``sys.stdlib_info``.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407:** same as status quo
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Verdict:** the scheme in this PEP actually allows third party libraries to be
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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more explicit about their rate of adoption of standard library features. More
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conservative projects will likely pin their dependency to the language
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version and avoid features added in the standard library releases. Faster
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moving projects could instead declare their dependency on a particular
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standard library version. However, since :pep:`407` does have the advantage of
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preserving the status quo, I'm calling this one for :pep:`407` (albeit with a
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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slim margin).
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Python developers, attempting to reproduce a tracker issue
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----------------------------------------------------------
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**Status quo:** if not already provided, ask the reporter which version of
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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Python they're using. This is often done by asking for the first two lines
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displayed by the interactive prompt or the value of ``sys.version``.
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**This PEP:** same as the status quo (as ``sys.version`` will be updated to
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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also include the standard library version), but may be needed on additional
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occasions (where the user knew enough to state their Python version, but that
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proved to be insufficient to reproduce the fault).
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2012-02-25 03:42:49 -05:00
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**PEP 407:** same as the status quo
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2022-01-21 06:03:51 -05:00
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**Verdict:** another marginal win for :pep:`407`. The new standard library version
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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*is* an extra piece of information that users may need to pass back to
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developers when reporting issues with Python libraries (or Python itself,
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on our own tracker). However, by including it in ``sys.version``, many
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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fault reports will already include it, and it is easy to request if needed.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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CPython release managers, handling a security fix
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-------------------------------------------------
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**Status quo:** create a new maintenance release incorporating the security
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fix and any other bug fixes under source control. Also create source releases
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for any branches open solely for security fixes.
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**This PEP:** same as the status quo for maintenance branches. Also create a
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new standard library release (potentially incorporating new features along
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with the security fix). For security branches, create source releases for
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both the former maintenance branch and the standard library update branch.
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**PEP 407:** same as the status quo for maintenance and security branches,
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but handling security fixes for non-LTS releases is currently an open
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question.
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**Verdict:** until :pep:`407` is updated to actually address this scenario, a
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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clear win for this PEP.
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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Effects
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=======
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Effect on development cycle
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---------------------------
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Similar to :pep:`407`, this PEP will break up the delivery of new features into
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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more discrete chunks. Instead of a whole raft of changes landing all at once
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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in a language release, each language release will be limited to 6 months
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worth of standard library changes, as well as any changes associated with
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new syntax.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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Effect on workflow
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------------------
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This PEP proposes the creation of a single additional branch for use in the
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normal workflow. After the release of 3.3, the following branches would be
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in use::
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2.7 # Maintenance branch, no change
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3.3 # Maintenance branch, as for 3.2
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3.3-compat # New branch, backwards compatible changes
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default # Language changes, standard library updates that depend on them
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When working on a new feature, developers will need to decide whether or not
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it is an acceptable change for a standard library release. If so, then it
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should be checked in on ``3.3-compat`` and then merged to ``default``.
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Otherwise it should be checked in directly to ``default``.
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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The "version added" and "version changed" markers for any changes made on
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the ``3.3-compat`` branch would need to be flagged with both the language
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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version and the standard library version. For example: "3.3 (33.1)".
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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Any changes made directly on the ``default`` branch would just be flagged
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with "3.4" as usual.
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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The ``3.3-compat`` branch would be closed to normal development at the
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same time as the ``3.3`` maintenance branch. The ``3.3-compat`` branch would
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remain open for security fixes for the same period of time as the ``3.3``
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maintenance branch.
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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Effect on bugfix cycle
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----------------------
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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The effect on the bug fix workflow is essentially the same as that on the
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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workflow for new features - there is one additional branch to pass through
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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before the change reaches the ``default`` branch.
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If critical bugs are found in a maintenance release, then new maintenance and
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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standard library releases will be created to resolve the problem. The final
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part of the version number will be incremented for both the language version
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and the standard library version.
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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If critical bugs are found in a standard library release that do not affect
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the associated maintenance release, then only a new standard library release
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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will be created and only the standard library's version number will be
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incremented.
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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Note that in these circumstances, the standard library release *may* include
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additional features, rather than just containing the bug fix. It is
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assumed that anyone that cares about receiving *only* bug fixes without any
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new features mixed in will already be relying strictly on the maintenance
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releases rather than using the new standard library releases.
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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Effect on the community
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-----------------------
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2022-01-21 06:03:51 -05:00
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:pep:`407` has this to say about the effects on the community:
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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People who value stability can just synchronize on the LTS releases which,
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with the proposed figures, would give a similar support cycle (both in
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duration and in stability).
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I believe this statement is just plain wrong. Life isn't that simple. Instead,
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developers of third party modules and frameworks will come under pressure to
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support the full pace of the new release cycle with binary updates, teachers
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and book authors will receive complaints that they're only covering an "old"
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version of Python ("You're only using 3.3, the latest is 3.5!"), etc.
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As the minor version number starts climbing 3 times faster than it has in the
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past, I believe perceptions of language stability would also fall (whether
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such opinions were justified or not).
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I believe isolating the increased pace of change to the standard library,
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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and clearly delineating it with a separate version number will greatly
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reassure the rest of the community that no, we're not suddenly
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asking them to triple their own rate of development. Instead, we're merely
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going to ship standard library updates for the next language release in
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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6-monthly installments rather than delaying them all until the next language
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definition update, even those changes that are backwards compatible with the
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previously released version of Python.
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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2022-01-21 06:03:51 -05:00
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The community benefits listed in :pep:`407` are equally applicable to this PEP,
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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at least as far as the standard library is concerned:
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People who value reactivity and access to new features (without taking the
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risk to install alpha versions or Mercurial snapshots) would get much more
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value from the new release cycle than currently.
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People who want to contribute new features or improvements would be more
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motivated to do so, knowing that their contributions will be more quickly
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available to normal users.
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If the faster release cycle encourages more people to focus on contributing
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to the standard library rather than proposing changes to the language
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definition, I don't see that as a bad thing.
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Handling News Updates
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=====================
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What's New?
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-----------
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The "What's New" documents would be split out into separate documents for
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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standard library releases and language releases. So, during the 3.3 release
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cycle, we would see:
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* What's New in Python 3.3?
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* What's New in the Python Standard Library 33.1?
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* What's New in the Python Standard Library 33.2?
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* What's New in the Python Standard Library 33.3?
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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2012-02-25 07:29:41 -05:00
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And then finally, we would see the next language release:
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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* What's New in Python 3.4?
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For the benefit of users that ignore standard library releases, the 3.4
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What's New would link back to the What's New documents for each of the
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standard library releases in the 3.3 series.
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NEWS
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----
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2012-02-25 03:30:03 -05:00
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Merge conflicts on the NEWS file are already a hassle. Since this PEP
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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proposes introduction of an additional branch into the normal workflow,
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2012-02-25 07:24:14 -05:00
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resolving this becomes even more critical. While Mercurial phases may
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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help to some degree, it would be good to eliminate the problem entirely.
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One suggestion from Barry Warsaw is to adopt a non-conflicting
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separate-files-per-change approach, similar to that used by Twisted [2_].
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release, one possible layout for such an approach might look like::
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necessary (since the NEWS file generator could figure out from the version
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history), but does make it easier for *humans* to keep the different versions
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in order.
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Other benefits of reduced version coupling
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Slowing down the language release cycle
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The current release cycle is a compromise between the desire for stability
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in the core language definition and C extension ABI, and the desire to get
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new features (most notably standard library updates) into user's hands more
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quickly.
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With the standard library release cycle decoupled (to some degree) from that
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of the core language definition, it provides an opportunity to actually
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*slow down* the rate of change in the language definition. The language
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moratorium for Python 3.2 effectively slowed that cycle down to *more than 3
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years* (3.1: June 2009, 3.3: August 2012) without causing any major
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problems or complaints.
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The NEWS file management scheme described above is actually designed to
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allow us the flexibility to slow down language releases at the same time
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as standard library releases become more frequent.
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As a simple example, if a full two years was allowed between 3.3 and 3.4,
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the 3.3 release cycle would end up looking like::
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3.3.0 # Language release
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3.3.1 # Maintenance release
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The elegance of the proposed branch structure and NEWS entry layout is that
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this decision wouldn't really need to be made until shortly before the planned
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3.4 release date. At that point, the decision could be made to postpone the
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3.4 release and keep the ``3.3`` and ``3.3-compat`` branches open after the
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3.3.3 maintenance release and the 3.3 (33.3) standard library release, thus
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adding another standard library release to the cycle. The choice between
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another standard library release or a full language release would then be
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available every 6 months after that.
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As noted in the previous section, one benefit of the scheme proposed in this
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PEP is that it largely decouples the language release cycle from the
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standard library release cycle. The standard library could be updated every
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3 months, or even once a month, without having any flow on effects on the
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language version numbering or the perceived stability of the core language.
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While that pace of development isn't practical as long as the binary
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installer creation for Windows and Mac OS X involves several manual steps
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(including manual testing) and for as long as we don't have separate
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"<branch>-release" trees that only receive versions that have been marked as
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good by the stable buildbots, it's still a useful criterion to keep in mind
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when considering proposed new versioning schemes: what if we eventually want
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to make standard library releases even *faster* than every 6 months?
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If the practical issues were ever resolved, then the separate standard
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library versioning scheme in this PEP could handle it. The tagged version
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number approach proposed in :pep:`407` could not (at least, not without a lot
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of user confusion and uncertainty).
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Other Questions
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===============
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Why not use the major version number?
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The simplest and most logical solution would actually be to map the
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major.minor.micro version numbers to the language version, stdlib version
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and maintenance release version respectively.
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Instead of releasing Python 3.3.0, we would instead release Python 4.0.0
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and the release cycle would look like::
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4.0.0 # Language release
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4.0.1 # Maintenance release
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4.1.0 # Standard library release
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4.0.2 # Maintenance release
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4.2.0 # Standard library release
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4.0.3 # Maintenance release
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4.3.0 # Standard library release
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5.0.0 # Language release
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However, the ongoing pain of the Python 2 -> Python 3 transition (and
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associated workarounds like the ``python3`` and ``python2`` symlinks to
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refer directly to the desired release series) means that this simple option
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isn't viable for historical reasons.
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One way that this simple approach *could* be made to work is to merge the
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current major and minor version numbers directly into a 2-digit major
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version number::
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33.0.0 # Language release
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33.0.1 # Maintenance release
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33.1.0 # Standard library release
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33.0.2 # Maintenance release
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33.2.0 # Standard library release
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33.0.3 # Maintenance release
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33.3.0 # Standard library release
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34.0.0 # Language release
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Why not use a four part version number?
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2012-02-26 00:33:31 -05:00
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Another simple versioning scheme would just add a "standard library" version
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into the existing versioning scheme::
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3.3.0.0 # Language release
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3.3.0.1 # Maintenance release
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3.3.1.0 # Standard library release
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3.3.0.2 # Maintenance release
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3.3.2.0 # Standard library release
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3.3.0.3 # Maintenance release
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3.3.3.0 # Standard library release
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3.4.0.0 # Language release
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However, this scheme isn't viable due to backwards compatibility constraints
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on the ``sys.version_info`` structure.
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Why not use a date-based versioning scheme?
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Earlier versions of this PEP proposed a date-based versioning scheme for
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the standard library. However, such a scheme made it very difficult to
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handle out-of-cycle releases to fix security issues and other critical
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bugs in standard library releases, as it required the following steps:
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1. Change the release version number to the date of the current month.
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2. Update the What's New, NEWS and documentation to refer to the new release
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number.
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3. Make the new release.
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With the sequential scheme now proposed, such releases should at most require
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a little tidying up of the What's New document before making the release.
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2012-02-24 12:04:48 -05:00
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Why isn't PEP 384 enough?
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-------------------------
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2022-01-21 06:03:51 -05:00
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:pep:`384` introduced the notion of a "Stable ABI" for CPython, a limited
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subset of the full C ABI that is guaranteed to remain stable. Extensions
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built against the stable ABI should be able to support all subsequent
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Python versions with the same binary.
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This will help new projects to avoid coupling their C extension modules too
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closely to a specific version of CPython. For existing modules, however,
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migrating to the stable ABI can involve quite a lot of work (especially for
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extension modules that define a lot of classes). With limited development
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resources available, any time spent on such a change is time that could
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otherwise have been spent working on features that offer more direct benefits
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to end users.
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There are also other benefits to separate versioning (as described above)
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that are not directly related to the question of binary compatibility with
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third party C extensions.
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Why no binary compatible additions to the C ABI in standard library releases?
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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There's a case to be made that *additions* to the CPython C ABI could
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reasonably be permitted in standard library releases. This would give C
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extension authors the same freedom as any other package or module author
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to depend either on a particular language version or on a standard library
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version.
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The PEP currently associates the interpreter version with the language
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version, and therefore limits major interpreter changes (including C ABI
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additions) to the language releases.
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An alternative, internally consistent, approach would be to link the
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interpreter version with the standard library version, with only changes that
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may affect backwards compatibility limited to language releases.
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Under such a scheme, the following changes would be acceptable in standard
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library releases:
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* Standard library updates
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* new features in pure Python modules
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* new features in C extension modules (subject to :pep:`399` compatibility
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requirements)
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* new features in language builtins
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* Interpreter implementation updates
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* binary compatible additions to the C ABI
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* changes to the compilation toolchain that do not affect the AST or alter
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the bytecode magic number
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* changes to the core interpreter eval loop
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* bug fixes from the corresponding maintenance release
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And the following changes would be acceptable in language releases:
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* new language syntax
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* any updates acceptable in a standard library release
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* new deprecation warnings
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* removal of previously deprecated features
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* changes to the AST
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* changes to the emitted bytecode that require altering the magic number
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* binary incompatible changes to the C ABI (although the :pep:`384` stable ABI
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must still be preserved)
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While such an approach could probably be made to work, there does not appear
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to be a compelling justification for it, and the approach currently described
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in the PEP is simpler and easier to explain.
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Why not separate out the standard library entirely?
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---------------------------------------------------
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2012-02-25 23:53:07 -05:00
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A concept that is occasionally discussed is the idea of making the standard
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library truly independent from the CPython reference implementation.
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My personal opinion is that actually making such a change would involve a
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lot of work for next to no pay-off. CPython without the standard library is
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useless (the build chain won't even run, let alone the test suite). You also
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can't create a standalone pure Python standard library either, because too
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many "standard library modules" are actually tightly linked in to the
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internal details of their respective interpreters (for example, the builtins,
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``weakref``, ``gc``, ``sys``, ``inspect``, ``ast``).
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Creating a separate CPython development branch that is kept compatible with
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the previous language release, and making releases from that branch that are
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identified with a separate standard library version number should provide
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most of the benefits of a separate standard library repository with only a
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fraction of the pain.
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Acknowledgements
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================
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Thanks go to the :pep:`407` authors for starting this discussion, as well as
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to those authors and Larry Hastings for initial discussions of the proposal
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made in this PEP.
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References
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.. [2] Twisted's "topfiles" approach to NEWS generation
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http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ReviewProcess#Newsfiles
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Copyright
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=========
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This document has been placed in the public domain.
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Local Variables:
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mode: indented-text
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indent-tabs-mode: nil
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sentence-end-double-space: t
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fill-column: 70
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coding: utf-8
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End:
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