PEP: 641 Title: Using an underscore in the version portion of Python 3.10 compatibility tags Author: Brett Cannon , Steve Dower , Barry Warsaw PEP-Delegate: Pablo Galindo Discussions-To: https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-641-using-an-underscore-in-the-version-portion-of-python-3-10-compatibility-tags/5513 Status: Rejected Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 20-Oct-2020 Python-Version: 3.10 Post-History: 2020-10-21 Resolution: https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-641-using-an-underscore-in-the-version-portion-of-python-3-10-compatibility-tags/5513/42 Abstract ======== .. note:: This PEP was rejected due to potential breakage in the community. Using the tag system outlined in :pep:`425` (primarily used for wheel file names), each release of Python specifies compatibility tags (e.g. ``cp39``, ``py39`` for CPython 3.9). For CPython 3.10, this PEP proposes using ``3_10`` as the version portion of the tags (instead of ``310``). Motivation ========== Up to this point, the version portion of compatibility tags used in e.g. wheel file names has been a straight concatenation of the major and minor versions of Python, both for the CPython interpreter tag and the generic, interpreter-agnostic interpreter tag (e.g. ``cp39`` and ``py39``, respectively). This also applies to the ABI tag (e.g. ``cp39``). Thanks to both the major and minor versions being single digits, it has been unambiguous what which digit in e.g. ``39`` represented. But starting with Python 3.10, ambiguity comes up as ``310`` does not clearly delineate whether the Python version is ``3.10``, ``31.0``, or ``310`` as the major-only version of Python. Thus using ``3_10`` to separate major/minor portions as allowed by :pep:`425` disambiguates the Python version being supported. Rationale ========= Using ``3_10`` instead of another proposed separator is a restriction of :pep:`425`, thus the only options are ``3_10`` or ``310``. Specification ============= The ``SOABI`` configure variable and ``sysconfig.get_config_var('py_version_nodot')`` will be updated to use ``3_10`` appropriately. Backwards Compatibility ======================= Tools relying on the 'packaging' project [2]_ already expect a version specification of ``3_10`` for Python 3.10. Keeping the version specifier as ``310`` would require backing that change out and updating dependent projects (e.g. pip). Switching to ``3_10`` will impact any tools that implicitly rely on the convention that the minor version is a single digit. However, these are broken regardless of any change here. For tools assuming the major version is only the first digit, they will require updating if we switch to ``3_10``. In non-locale ASCII, ``_`` sorts after any digit, so lexicographic sorting matching a sort by Python version of a wheel file name will be kept. Since :pep:`515` (Python 3.6), underscores in numeric literals are ignored. This means that ``int("3_10")`` and ``int("310")`` produce the same result, and ordering based on conversion to an integer will be preserved. **However**, this is still a bad way to sort tags, and the point is raised here simply to show that this proposal does not make things worse. Security Implications ===================== There are no known security concerns. How to Teach This ================= As use of the interpreter tag is mostly machine-based and this PEP disambiguates, there should not be any special teaching consideration required. Reference Implementation ======================== A pull request [1]_ already exists adding support to CPython 3.10. Support for reading wheel files with this proposed PEP is already implemented. Rejected Ideas ============== Not making the change --------------------- It was considered to not change the tag and stay with ``310``. The argument was it's less work and it won't break any existing tooling. But in the end it was thought that the disambiguation is better to have. Open Issues =========== How far should we take this? ---------------------------- Other places where the major and minor version are used could be updated to use an underscore as well (e.g. ``.pyc`` files, the import path to the zip file for the stdlib). It is not known how useful it would be to make this pervasive. Standardizing on double digit minor version numbers --------------------------------------------------- An alternative suggestion has been made to disambiguate where the major and minor versions start/stop by forcing the minor version to always be two digits, padding with a ``0`` as required. The advantages of this is it makes the current ``cp310`` interpreter tag accurate, thus minimizing breakage. It also does differentiate going forward. There are a couple of drawbacks, though. One is the disambiguation only exists *if* you know that the minor version number is two digits; compare that to ``cp3_10`` which is unambiguous regardless of your base knowledge. The potential for a three digit minor version number is also not addressed by this two digit requirement. There is also the issue of other interpreters not following the practice in the past, present, or future. For instance, it is unknown if other people have used a three digit version portion of the interpreter tag previously for another interpreter where this rule would be incorrect. This change would also suggest that interpreters which currently have a single digit minor version -- e.g. PyPy 7.3 -- to change from ``pp73`` to ``pp703`` or make the switch from their next minor release onward (e.g. 7.4 or 8.0). Otherwise this would make this rule exclusive to the ``cp`` interpreter type which would make it more confusing for people. References ========== .. [1] Reference implementation (https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/20333) .. [2] The 'packaging' project (https://pypi.org/project/packaging/) Copyright ========= This document is placed in the public domain or under the CC0-1.0-Universal license, whichever is more permissive. .. Local Variables: mode: indented-text indent-tabs-mode: nil sentence-end-double-space: t fill-column: 70 coding: utf-8 End: